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[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (8 children)

It's disingenuous because they're not everywhere. They're in a specific subset of high crime areas.

It's a very own problem in its own right, but when including in a statistic used to represent all of America as shooting people up is what makes it a poor and often intentionally misleading statistic as compared to how safe you actually are in the average area

They're also typically more targeted, less random

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago (7 children)

and it regularly involves a specific group of people, often times doesn't really even involve every day normal people, as opposed to a mass shooting, where the literal point is killing normal people.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 4 months ago (5 children)

specific group of people

Nice dog whistle.

The virctims in gang violence include innocent bystanders.

We all know exactly what you're really saying here and you'll deny and make excuses about it.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The virctims in gang violence include innocent bystanders.

i mean it certainly can, but statistically, gang violence is going to be between gangs. Whether or that happens to be among specific racial, or ethnic groups is a different story entirely.

Of course there is also the question of gang violence hitting non violent members of the local community which may or may not be involved in that gang specifically, but that's a different problem.

We all know exactly what you’re really saying here and you’ll deny and make excuses about it.

yeah, and it's that specific communities, which tend to be correlative with racial/ethnic groups (you wouldn't disagree with me on this one, judging by your comment acknowledging this fact) tend to have issues with discriminate, or indiscriminate violence between members of their community, for various reasons.

This is usually a phenomenon restricted to certain geographic areas though, it rarely makes it way outside of these areas, to places where "mass violence" is most commonly reported on. Because it's not common.

quick edit: all i'm going to say, is that im not reading into the racial/ethnic problem here, you are. I'm just pointing out that gang violence tends to be isolated, concentrated, and easy to avoid.

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