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DACA isn't "undocumented".
You do know what "documented" means, right?
Edit: Just to clarify, "Dreamers" arrive in the US as undocumented when their parents bring them here. They become documented when they enroll in DACA. Documentation ≠ citizenship.
They don’t know how the fuck to read so of course they fucking don’t. Treat every fucking person like that as if they are too stupid to chew food without being told by their king orange turd how to do it.
I truly do not understand the hostility here. It's important that people understand that there are undocumented students on college campuses and that this legislation, like basically all legislation from this administration poses real harm to them. Please see the content of this comment I put elsewhere in this thread:
Dreamers is one of the names for undocumented people. DACA is legislation that's been implemented to protect some of them. Did you even bother reading anything in the above link above? Here's a direct quote: While there are over 408,000 undocumented students currently enrolled in postsecondary education, less than half (181,000) are DACA-eligible
DACA was implemented because dreamers were going to school already, it's not HOW they go school.
DACA also does not make someone "documented". It is a weird loophole, but their immigration status is still technically undocumented despite them being able to work and go to school. Basically the government promises not to do anything about them for a bit. They have to keep renewing that promise. It's not like a normal visa. The government is not actually giving them a "right" to stay.
See here: "DACA/DACA-mented Students who are DACA recipients (Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals), also known as “DACA-mented” students, are still considered undocumented students even though they may have a social security number and/or an Employment Authorization Card. DACA students should follow the same steps as an undocumented student when applying to SOU. A copy of your Employment Authorization Card is not required for admission processing."
And
"Some undocumented students may be part of DACA (Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals) while others are not." https://sou.edu/admissions/apply/uid/
"Deferred action is an exercise of prosecutorial discretion to defer removal action against an individual for a certain period of time. Deferred action does not provide lawful status." https://www.uscis.gov/DACA
I am quite familiar with this particular status. It seems like everybody else is going off of vibes, and not even bothering to take two seconds to google this. Are you familiar with the definition of documented/undocumented? It's not as simple as the way it's used in general conversation.
Undocumented students can and do go to college. Some of them are eligible for DACA. DACA does not make you documented.
Dreamers are undocumented immigrants who arrived in the United States as children, lived and attended school here, and identify as American.
https://www.presidentsalliance.org/breakdown-of-dreamer-with-and-without-daca/
What are you saying?
I'm really just curious how undocumented immigrants enroll in universities. University of Florida was listed in OPs article. I am currently enrolled in a much smaller community college but I had to provide a lot of info on who I was and prove my citizenship and state residency. I assumed all colleges and universities do the same.
This is easily googleable and I've provided links.
I have no idea why people prefer to spread misinformation instead of taking two seconds to fact check.
https://www.bestcolleges.com/resources/undocumented-students/college-application-guide/
A lot of (if not most) allow you to apply without some of that information and I've seen specific workflows set up for undocumented students depending on the school. You can Google most of it, but here's one of the first results: https://www.bestcolleges.com/resources/undocumented-students/college-application-guide/
Once again, perhaps you don't know what "documented" means.
They were undocumented when their parents brought them here. They became documented when they enrolled in DACA. That's how documentation works.
You seem to be equating "documentation" with "citizenship"
Dreamers is one of the names for undocumented people. DACA is legislation that's been implemented to protect some of them. Did you even bother reading anything in the above link above? Here's a direct quote: While there are over 408,000 undocumented students currently enrolled in postsecondary education, less than half (181,000) are DACA-eligible
DACA was implemented because dreamers were going to school already, it's not HOW they go school.
DACA also does not make someone "documented". It is a weird loophole, but their immigration status is still technically undocumented despite them being able to work and go to school. Basically the government promises not to do anything about them for a bit. They have to keep renewing that promise. It's not like a normal visa. The government is not actually giving them a "right" to stay.
See here: "DACA/DACA-mented Students who are DACA recipients (Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals), also known as “DACA-mented” students, are still considered undocumented students even though they may have a social security number and/or an Employment Authorization Card. DACA students should follow the same steps as an undocumented student when applying to SOU. A copy of your Employment Authorization Card is not required for admission processing."
And
"Some undocumented students may be part of DACA (Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals) while others are not." https://sou.edu/admissions/apply/uid/
"Deferred action is an exercise of prosecutorial discretion to defer removal action against an individual for a certain period of time. Deferred action does not provide lawful status." https://www.uscis.gov/DACA
I am quite familiar with this particular status. It seems like everybody else is going off of vibes, and not even bothering to take two seconds to google this. Are you familiar with the definition of documented/undocumented? It's not as simple as the way it's used in general conversation.
Undocumented students can and do go to college. Some of them are eligible for DACA. DACA does not make you documented.
Sometimes I can't tell if I'm arguing with fascists who are attempting to waste my time, or people who are so incapable or uninterested in the conversation they don't even bother to read the links I readily provided, but for some reason are willing to respond multiple times. Please let me know which you are, so I know if I should even bother with the rest of this conversation.