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Back in the day they were saying "don't let the terrorists win"
Now it's communists?
Are there any real communists left in the world?
The only existing communist states left in the world are in China, Cuba, Laos, Vietnam, and North Korea (DPRK).
...and even these states do not claim to have achieved communism in their countries but are supposedly building and working toward its establishment.
China is the most capitalist communist country I've ever seen
China is just capitalism with extra spicy corruption.
China is a fascist economy without the extreme jingoism
I mean...
Extreme jingoism is more like threatening to invade your closest ally of 150 years because of woke, that's just sparkling imperialism
I don't disagree but that's just whataboutism.
No, it's describing an actual example. This is why whataboutism is a disputed fallacy, you realize.
Though one might point out that while Xi publicly denounces hegemony and extreme nationalism there's quite a lot of jingoist rhetoric pushed through other means, not to mention saber rattling over territory, that's still a far cry from the head of state threatening to invade your neighbors just because.
The fear of communists came way before the fear of terrorists.
It's retro fear.
Retcom
The threat of communism is far more real to empire which is the by far the worst terrorist.
The traditional Marxist argument would be that Marx thought liberalism/capitalism could be a required step towards communism, even if he had some hope of Russia skipping the stage for cultural reasons.
They then claim that China is merely in that step towards socialism, and point to things like the re-education of certain billionaires as proof that the people/party are still in control.
Personally I think that's a bunch of nonsense and they're a fascist state that, admittedly, will probably be less racist and expansionist than the incoming American Empire.
Right-wingers, whether fash or red fash (tankies), agree that China is commie because they have no idea what communism is.
The types who bleat about "actually existing socialism" do.
Cuba has the best argument, IMO. The people they killed/tossed out mostly had it coming. Most of the problems can be directly attributed to US sanctions, and those sanctions only serve the interests the people who got thrown out (or their decedents, at this point). Both the US and Cuba are harmed more than they're helped by those sanctions.
If I wanted an example of Marxist-Leninism working, Cuba would be it, even with obvious issues. The rest are only successful if you have a shitty definition of success.
Communism is directly incompatible with the violent hierarchy of states.
China is not communist.
None of these places are communist.
There are many actual commies/leftists but we're completely attacked and obscured by the hegemonic right-wing ideologies (eg. liberalism, fascism, etc.).