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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Normally I'd agree.

But, I don't really care anymore.

One side has crossed all sorts of lines and now pushback is happening. Innocents always get caught up in situations like that.

They can sell their Teslas.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Isn't this just class infighting though, something completely against the benefit of the workers so the owners can continue to pick our pockets while we aren't looking?

[–] Goretantath@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Not when that part of the class is determined to ruin everyone else in the class. Nazi's aren't a part of the community.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I hate to break it to you, but people who bought a Tesla four years ago aren't Nazis.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

No, but they are supporting one by continuing to buy/drive them.

[–] Necroscope0@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Because everyone is rich like you and can afford to just buy a new car because some CEO revealed himself to be an evil cunt. You are so out of touch it hurts my head. If folks like you are the majority of the people on the anti-musk side we are so very destined to lose this war. So discouraging, ugh. We have no chance at all with that mindset.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Because everyone is rich like you and can afford to just buy a new car because some CEO revealed himself to be an evil cunt.

Lol. Buddy, I can't even afford a Tesla. And yes, if by owning a specific vehicle I was supporting a FUCKING NAZI who bought a presidency and was deconstructing the democracy I live in and firing my fucking friends from their federal jobs, you better bet your ass I'd do something about it. Like selling that fucking car and getting another one.

Sometimes you have to grow a pair of balls and do the right thing, even if it inconveniences you. And no one who owns a Tesla is in a position to be massively inconvenienced by getting rid of it.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

How is having a paid off car supporting anyone but one's own means of commuting to work?

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

And everyone driving a Volkswagen is a nazi then too? If you support burning teslas, you must also support burning those

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Not sure if you noticed, but it's 2025, not 1938. Yeah, Volkswagon fucked up by supporting Nazis almost a century ago. The Tesla thing is happening NOW. Volkswagon is not the same company it was almost a century ago, just like I'm sure Tesla won't be the same company almost a century from now, when the fucking Nazi that runs it is dead. Volkswagon is also highly responsible for the much, much safer 3-point seatbelt being standardized. So they've made positive contributions.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well that's a moronic argument

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

It's not moronic, you are literally suggesting burning random people's cars because the manufacturer is a nazi. I pointed out another example of such a manufacturer, and you have a problem with it.

Or if you want to be like that, how about just all classical voltswagons.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It’s not moronic

It is, because the arrow of time moves forward and you're talking about a company a century ago vs. now as if literally nothing has changed about that company or the rest of the world around it in that time.

If it was 1938 right now, I'd be advocating burning the fuck out of Volkswagons. It makes literally no sense to do that now.

So you suddenly care about the passage of time when it isn't about how people bought them before musk went full nazi?

[–] void_turtle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The CEO of Volkswagon isn't currently doing a fascist coup you fucking moron

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You're arguing with someone too dumb to realize the 1930's and 2020's are two different time periods with entirely different sets of human beings.

Their argument is the definition of dogshit.

The idea that we should destroy electric cars is dogshit. You guys want to set electrification back half a decade.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's never class infighting when you are attacking class traitors. They are free, of course, to stop being class traitors.

Same logic applies to cops.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

If you truly think someone who bought a car years ago is a class traitor, I don't really know what to say.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It's not like we're accusing them of planning it.

But the bottom line is the owner of the company they are supporting is a NAZI who bought a presidency and is deconstructing our government and illegally firing thousands of Americans.

If you continue to drive/buy Teslas, you are supporting that Nazi and empowering him to do more damage to our country.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If they are still driving a luxury car made by Nazis, to promote Nazism, even when it becomes very obvious a nazi symbol... Yes, they are.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

First, Teslas are not luxury cars, haha. You could buy one for $35,000 USD right now, and their build quality is significantly subpar of luxury.

To the main point - look, I get it, the CEO is a Nazi and fuck anyone who buys or bought a Tesla recently, but punishing a working class citizen with a 5 year old car and telling them they need to take a loss and cough up for a new vehicle is extremely stupid and naive.

I sure hope you dont own a Volkswagen, as it's a symbol of Nazism.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 0 points 4 months ago

Is the current execs of Volkswagem supporting a neonazi, right now?

No.

I still don't own one, however.

And yes, I get it. Sometimes it is an inconvenience to oppose fascism. Wah.

And 5 years ago, Musk was still a shitstain, so even that excuse is flimsy as fuck.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Isn’t this just class infighting though

Nah. It's trying to affect the bottom line of an extremely wealthy person who uses his wealth to the detriment of average Americans. Limit the wealth. Limit the amount of damage he can do. Or, we could do nothing to his bottom line and he can become even more wealthy and do even more than buy a presidency and deconstruct our government, illegally laying off thousands of federal workers.

Also, I can't afford a Tesla. So I'm not even sure if I consider Tesla owners to be of the same class as I am.

[–] Necroscope0@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You do know he already got paid for those so you are not impacting anything except some rando innocent person who now will actively hate your cause and move further towards the fascist side? Or maybe you don't. Know it or not burning peoples Tesla's is one of the absolute worst and stupidest moves someone can do if they actually want things to change. That just adds one more them to the "us vrs them".

[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 months ago

Personally, I think people that own them should dump them, flood the market with used Swasticars nobody wants to be associated with. However, direct action does seem to be having an impact.

I suspect anyone the victim of this type of crime will think twice about buying another.

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

As someone who was raised in a conservative family but who climbed through a great many hoops to finally arrive at socialist thought: if you nutters were the left while I made that journey, I doubt I ever would have finished it.

The world has enough psychos in it, please stop hurting people who you can't even be sure are complicit.