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[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Basically a neurological take on the age old "the ends can never justify the means" take.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

??? This is about targeting the correct audience instead of what's easy.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

??? It seems we do not understand each other at all.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

But "make sure your motivation is to help the system" isn't related to "the ends justify the means" at all.

The OP is claiming that if done correctly, the ends justify the means.

I'm not criticizing your idea that the ends don't justify the means. It's only that your reply is a non sequitur to the OP.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well, my understanding on the OPs text is that the means necessarily shape the ends, but instead of a sociological interpretation, it is an equally valid neurological one.

And this is in turn the exact same argument as that the ends should never justify the means, because if you use the wrong means you will never reach the ends you want.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The OP states it is justified to use violence against the right people to achieve your ends.

"The ends never justify the means." is a statement that violence is never the right answer.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 months ago

Hmm, no? Where does the OP say that?

[–] andrewth09@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think it means violent activists are more likely to attack members of their community (i.e. people who live in the same city as you and are relatively close to you on the social-economic scale) than actual brownshirts

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 0 points 4 months ago

Maybe also, but I think the argument is rather that once the brown shirts nearby are gone they will find someone else to turn on, and historically speaking this was often their previous allies with some minor ideological disagreements.