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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I mean, I had been reading about the native people's of Canada not too long ago and how they have been historically fucked by the Canadian government, and continue to be fucked over in modern times. Especially all those articles about schools for the native people's where they were finding mass graves of students.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah. Last hundred years or so US racists have been focused on black people and Mexicans, whereas in Canada first nations take the brunt of it.

[–] grue@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Mexicans are Native Americans. The "black people" part of what you wrote is the only real difference.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Modern Mexicans are mostly Mestizo, mixed Spanish and indigenous peoples (Aztec, Maya, etc.).

[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

So are most US Native Americans and Canadian First Nations folks.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're certainly native to the Americas, but they're descended from a drastically different culture than the ones in the eventual US and Canada and targeted a lot more. I feel it's accurate to differentiate Mexicans from (for example) Sioux or Navajo or Pequot, particularly when talking about modern day race relations in the United States.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Being oppressed isn't a contest.

That said, if you think Mexicans have been oppressed more by the US than the natives living further north, you should probably study your history better. At least folks of Aztec descent still exist in significant numbers, instead of having been mostly killed off!

Also don't forget about the millions of people native to former northern Mexico (Texas, California, and the land between) who became American citizens by virtue of those territories being ceded to the US, then later got deported anyway.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Being oppressed isn’t a contest.

What a stupid thing to say. It doesn't need to be a contest. Some groups are targeted more, that's just statement of fact. I doubt the ones that are targeted less feel like they've won anything.

if you think Mexicans have been oppressed more by the US than the natives living further north, you should probably study your history better

I'm not talking about history. I'm talking about the modern day. If you believe the trail of tears was within the last hundred years, you should probably study your history better.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fine, if that's how you want this conversation to go:

If you believe the US is currently oppressing Mexicans more than it's oppressing Native Americans, right now in the modern day, you're just fucking ignorant of everything, let alone history.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

How many golden hill paugusset are we throwing in gitmo?