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Ukrainians in occupied territories who refuse Russian passports face threats, intimidation and possible detention or deportation, Yale study says

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[–] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Wonder if those groups are organic but misled or crafted by China and Russia agencies.

I've read a couple of times that Russia should be supported because USA/NATO attacks countries and stages coups in Latin America for example.

Sure, everyone should be critical of the USA but we can also have a nuanced view.

A thought experiment: What if the USA (Russia) were to invade Mexico (Ukraine)? Should Latin America (Europe) support Mexico (Ukraine) from the invasion?

The same can be applied to other continents. China & Taiwan. Turkey & Greece. Etc

[–] honeynut@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Russia should be supported

Who says stuff like that around here?

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] artic@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago

I hate tankies

[–] ricecake@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

"in Latin America for example" lmao. coup was staged in ukraine/syria. what about iraq? what about nato expansion? what about...

[–] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yes, very good, it applies to those as well. The continent selection in the example is a nice metaphor because there's a physical border shared

[–] ricecake@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

i do not think that russia should take over ukraine, but the war between russia and ukraine is different. 30 years ago they were the same country. there are many ukrainians in russia/russians in ukraine. there was a pro west coup in ukraine in 2014. it's like war between pakistan and india

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

They were not the same country 30 years ago. Ukraine even had its own vote in the UN.

[–] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

I almost wrote India and Pakistan as one of the examples. That's a good analogy as well

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Literal whataboutism. Ridiculous.