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[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 36 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (14 children)

I don't care if China steals my data or uses my router as a vector for a DOS attack at this point. My fascist nation already has domestic back doors to spy on me if I was interesting enough. My opinion of China is roughly the same as my opinion of my own red white and blue shithole, about as low as you can go. In fact, their regular people on the street seem a hell of a lot more prosocial and EMPATHETIC than I've ever seen here in the US going by Rednote. I'm on nobody's side geopolitically because nobody is on my side.

Besides, we destroyed ourselves already. Checkmate CCP! Have fun spying on the ash heap. Spoilers: we're largely poorly educated here by design, so enjoy the stream of "...evolution is just a theory science is fake education is a scam pull yourself by your bootstraps stop virtue signaling it's not greed I'm rationally self-interested... "

[–] Subdivide6857@midwest.social 6 points 5 months ago (11 children)

Maybe China isn’t the bad guy. They have goals. Goals are good. We’re mainly into destruction and extracting capital. Wild thought, maybe we’ve never been the good guys. :o

[–] SleafordMod@feddit.uk 11 points 5 months ago (10 children)

I don't think goals are inherently good... Hitler had goals...

[–] Subdivide6857@midwest.social 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I believe you’re referencing Hitler to the incorrect country. China’s moving towards socialism, very slowly. The US is going straight fash at the speed of light.

[–] SleafordMod@feddit.uk 2 points 5 months ago

I wasn't meaning to criticise any particular country, I just meant that goals aren't inherently a good thing.

Regarding China and the US, I think both countries have a lot to offer, and there will be decent people from each country, but I don't think I'm a fan of the current government of either country.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think is more a generalization about the praise of "goals" rather than associating him with anyone in particular.

Ultimately all the major powers are being graded on a curve and are generally only "good" when compared to some more evil major player. The US may be slipping to be worse than China, but China would still be worse than a number of European nations.

[–] Subdivide6857@midwest.social 2 points 5 months ago

I understand, I wasn’t very specific about the goals. The China-bad non-sense just gets out of hand. The US is investing billions to ensure we all think China is some sort of boogie man. Just normal capitalism stuff.

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