this post was submitted on 20 Feb 2025
1297 points (97.4% liked)
Lord of the memes
10486 readers
2 users here now
The Lord of the rings memes communitiy on Lemmy. Share memes about Lord of the rings and be respectful.
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Europe after stopping fighting the most brutal and effective wars for centuries:
You're sure you want us back? We'll be united this time too.
Are you under the impression that Europe is somehow inoculated against imperialism? It's been fine going along with the US right up to this point, and has sins all its own.
Aye
Most US imperialist actions post-WWII haven't been for territory. The modern version is more economic and abstract. It's why Steven Pinker could write a whole book on why violence has declined in the world, be technically correct for the most part, but completely misses how the situation has transformed.
And yes, the EU is very guilty of it all, too. You can claim the US is worse, and certainly a revival of territorial imperialism is a regression to a horrible history, but this wholesale wiping away of EU sins is completely unjustified.
I explicitly said it's a return to a horrible history. If you're not going to take arguments that are given, then I think we're done here.
Queue historical materialism
It's a theory in international relations which argues that colonialism is all present today and excercised by mainly the West, but not in the form of guns and slavery but via the economical system and centre vs periphery
Eh, colonialism has ended less than it has evolved.
Potentially yes, but europe was so nice all in peace (compared to before).
I answered your question about us imperialism. Should we too gang up? Probably yes. Will it only be giid? Probably no should we counter russia? Yes.
To be fair, your post is hard to read/understand.
I was just jesting that we had the biggest most fearsomes armys ever, for good (fighting nazis) and bad (being nazis? Being imperialists, etc.) but we stopped "all that" and now putin pokes us enough to go back to our war stance (but this time we are united).
I don't know what I said that made you think I'm pro imperialism or that I even spoke about crimes against humanity (it do happens europeans do them sometimes and that atrocious of course, but today it's russia who do them every day, all day long).
Hope that clears it up!