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[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Is there a 500k+-population city in spain with a summer climate that's survivable for someone used to north sea climates?

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I recommend you rather look into Portugal if you seriously plan to move. The people there speak much better English, are less racists overall and the climate in the large cities near the atlantic ocean is also milder.

Spain still has a post-fascist problem as contrary to Portugal they never had a clean cut from their military dictatorship.

P.s.: to all the spaniards reading this, please this isn't meant as a diss πŸ˜…

P.P.S.: to all the Portuguese down-voting: yes I know the housing market sucks and there are already too many rich northern europeans in Lisbon and Porto. But it's nice to be popular, no?

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Portugal is lovely but has a big con, which is that the mean wage is lower than other countries in western Europe.
Why does it matter? western Europeans started buying everything that has a door in a nice location, which makes it harder to do so if your salary isn't at par with the other EU rich countries. If you start working for a foreign company, your income would also be adjusted (in most cases) to the mean wage of your home office (even if you WFH).

There are exceptions were you are self-employed but still work for them in a full time regime, but that opens a different can of worms.

I'll love to be wrong though, if someone can correct me, Portugal is fantastic. :)

EDIT: Spain, Italy, Southern France, Greece, etc. all have the same issue IMO.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

True, although the conversion of "everything in a nice location with a door" into AirB&Bs isn't primarily driven by northern Europeans. They are just the customers that make this viable for somewhat more affluent locals.

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No, unfortunately I'm too poor to seriously plan to move. I just don't know how to cope with the far-right surge and the inactiveness (or rather anti-activeness) of those who could do politics against it here in Germany anymore and I'm daydreaming and making snarky comments to get my mind off of it.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It might be more possible than you think. Students leave Germany (or whichever country they are from) all the time for a job and as you know, they aren't very wealthy. Depending on what you studied or trained as (roofer, brick-layer, builder, electrician, ...), it might be much easier to find a job there. And because you're already part of the EU, you don't need a VISA or anything. Companies might actually help you find a place to rent as well.

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Maybe, but I have other issues, too. Moving is not an option right now, much less to another country.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 3 points 5 months ago

Good luck with everything :)

[–] Foni@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago

Any of the cities of the Cantabrian Sea and the cities of Galicia

[–] Melchior@feddit.org 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Zaragoza and Bilbao come to mind.

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Zaragoza has average daytime temperatures six to ten degrees higher than my hometown during summer. No thanks.

Bilbao seems a lot nicer climate wise and it's a coastal city.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

You cannot translate the temperatures directly.

In Spain it is common to do a Siesta during the hottest hours of the day, usually 2-5 pm. Also buildings are more built for dealing with hot temperatures than cold temperatures.

So you can survive 35Β°C outside while staying in a cool home and then go out again in the evening, where you will find restaurants to still serve proper food at 10pm and normal shops to still be open until 9pm

Also dry heat or cold are much more bearable than wet heat or cold.

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yes, yes, I know that. It's just that I kinda mostly like the climate I live in. Sure, it could be a bit sunnier sometimes, but overall I'm quite comfortable (yet. I'm not sure I'm going to like what climate change is gonna bring in the future). And also I like coastal regions far more than inlands.

[–] Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago

I wouldn't call Zaragoza summer survivable for people used to colder climates.