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Venezuelan Migrant Sent to Guantánamo Bay Is ‘Not a Criminal,’ Family Pleads (www.nytimes.com)

submitted 6 months ago by silence7@slrpnk.net to c/nyt_gift_articles@sopuli.xyz

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Key facts here:

He entered the us legally, with an appointment to apply for asylum
He had a Michael Jordan tattoo
US officials decided he was a gang member based on this, even though officials "found that he did not appear to have ties with the Tren de Aragua," the gang he is accused of belonging to

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[–] cabbage@piefed.social 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (10 children)

I don't think @neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com referred to him, but to Americans generally.

As in "look at the fascist fucking mess we have made for ourselves, and it has barely even started. We asked for this and now it's happening, it's all our falult and it's all fucked".

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (9 children)

Yeah, I hate this kind of statement.

No. I personally did not ask for this.

I did not want this.

I will not take responsibility for this.

I will not allow you to rope me into your attempt to diffuse reponsibility.

I, myself, am increasingly at risk of finding myself shipped off to Guantanamo Bay. Every immigrant they do this to brings them one step closer to me. Call me selfish, but imo I have no duty to anyone when it comes to cleaning up the mess that I voted against. Instead, I'm gonna be finding ways for myself and other trans people to get out of the country while I still can.

You can claim responsibility and try to clean up if you want to, but I'm gonna be trying to leave.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

I hate to say it, but it's kind of right in a way. Those of us who knew right from wrong and let it slide by because the wrong was coming from our family and friends and loved ones and we ignored it long enough to fester to the point we have a full on nazi party again. It's not our fault these people are vile soulless creatures, but it's our fault for doing nothing about all the obvious signs that have been present for decades.

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I wasn't. I was trying to educate the people around me, but they didn't want to be educated. They wouldn't listen. Hell, my grandparents swore they wouldn't vote for Trump again and did it anyway. What was I supposed to do, take them out back and put em out of their misery?

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I mean, cutting all ties isn't unreasonable in my mind when it's Nazi rhetoric.

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's not something I have the freedom to do right now, unfortunately. I'm working on it, though tbh, they're pretty old. I kinda doubt they're gonna make it more than 4yrs. The other Trump voters, though? Yeah. Fuck 'em.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

But you get what I'm saying, it's not about you or me, it's about us collectively being complacent. The left sat on their hands.

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