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Isn’t this typically a lifestyle issue and obesity related?
Are you a type 1 diabetic?
My ask is does a health professional not say “diet and exercise is the first line choice to solve this problem”
It was a trick question: sat in my GPs office and we had this discussion juuuuust yesterday because I was curious about these drugs. Funny enough he said he prefers it to be kept for folks who are biologically incapable of naturally lowering their A1C as opposed to the new fad of this over diet and exercise.
The safest way to lower your A1C is with weight loss through diet and exercise, but I suppose “wonder drugs with nebulous and unknown side effects are quicker”
Just gonna be blunt and say that this is a pretty shitty misconception, like saying cancer sufferers didn't pray hard enough or something.
I'm T2D. I'm not going to provide my "fitness creds" (because why would you believe me anyway) but I'll just say it's absolutely not possible that my T2D is caused by poor diet or lack of exercise.
T2D is caused by insulin in insufficient quality or quantity. The pancreas produces insulin. Some people just have a shitty pancreas that produces shitty insulin that doesn't work. If you're overweight then fatty pancreas makes it worse, but it's not the underlying cause.
If you have T2D you can't store glucose effectively, it hangs around in your blood and fucks everything up. Consequently you shouldn't consume carbohydrates which your liver covers to glucose.
T2D is not caused by the consumption of sugar, but people with T2D cannot process sugar.
For a newly diagnosed person with T2D, diet and exercise is indeed the first recommendation, because the meds suck and losing some weight might make smaller doses more effective.
I, and others like me, lost the genetic lottery. I have to stick to an incredibly restrictive diet, and bullshit exercise regime, to delay the inevitable deterioration of my health. Even so I will be lucky to live to 60, and if I do ill probably have ass cancer or amputations or dead kidneys or some other fuckery.
Honestly, stick your "diet and lifestyle" misconceptions up your jumper.
You’re saying a lot as if it’s fact.
There is no known cause for T2D however the overwhelming evidence points at lifestyle and diet.
Medicine and science BOTH point at this being a disease of lifestyle, like gout. One damages their systems through abuse and overwhelming them.
But go off. Be offended.
I think it’s unethical to treat symptoms instead of the root issue and society normalizing diseases of lifestyle because we can potentially medicate the symptom away is gross.
I’ll shove it all up my jumper.
Dude you come across as such an asshole why be like that?
I don’t care. I literally could not care any less if I come across as an asshole. The person I’m responding to spouted a bunch of nonsense and I replied in kind.
We’re having a discussion about a drug and it’s not possible to ask hard questions anonymously on the internet?
I get it, people are super touchy about their weight and don’t want to take ownership of their health.
You're making assumptions and putting words in people's mouths, disregarding what they have to say because you seem to think you know better.
Edit: also, decent people care about coming across like an asshole...
Im not and I didn’t AND I don’t pretend to be a decent person on the internet.
Im literally having a direct conversation. You can walk away at any time without harassment. It’s easy!
Happy to satiate your need to bicker and feel like a savior though.
You should try to be decent in all interactions in my opinion.
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