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AI is ruining my online experience (lemmy.world)

submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by Grogon@lemmy.world to c/casualconversation@lemm.ee

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It was all fun and games two years ago when most AI videos were obvious (6 fingers, 7 fingers, etc.).

But things are getting out of hand. I am at a point I'm questioning if Lemmy, Reddit, Youtube comments etc. are even real. I wouldn't even be suprised if I was playing Overwatch 5v5 with 9 AIs while three of them are programmed to act like kids, 4 being non toxic etc..

This whole place could just be an illusion.

I can't prove it. Its really less fun now.

The upside is I go to the gym more frequently and just hang out with people I know are 100% real. Nothing worse than having a conversation with AI person. It was just an average 7/10 like I am an average 5/10 so I thought it could be a real thing but turned out I was chatting with AI. A 7/10 AI. The creator made the person less perfect looking to make it more realistic.

Nice. What is the point of internet when everything is fake but can't even or only be identified as fake with deep research.

I'm 32 and I know many young people who also hate it. To be fair I only know people who hate on AI nowadays. This has to end.

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[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Kitten is a new devkit to create self-hosted, peer-to-peer web applications, using HTML/CSS and Javascript. I can't attest how well it works but it's a step in that "small web" direction.

Because, like, Gemini is cool. But sometimes you want something more than just a capsule.

But I think this is likely more a societal issue than a technical one.

It's both, in a vicious cycle. At the same time that big tech herds passive people into walled gardens, it also passivises the people inside them even further. And those walls are not just between different feuds - they're also between customers and developers, making sure that each knows their place as serfs and vassals of big tech respectively.

I think the internet as is, is a solid choice. It’s been made to connect people (and their computers). And it’s initially been used for that.

The main problem with the current internet is that it has no mechanism against a commercial/hostile/corporate takeover, like the one that we saw. As you said it was made to connect people and computers; it is not like this any more.

(Sorry for not deepening the subject further. I'd need to get into political matters to do so, and doing it in this comm leaves me a sour taste in my mouth - as if distorting an environment supposed to be refreshing into the same stuff we see in 90% of Lemmy. )

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Thanks anyways. I guess it's just a hard problem to tackle. With freedom comes the freedom to abuse it. And yes, the internet has been designed to be very agnostic about what it'll get used for. I think it's a super impressive invention. And it's very successful if we measure that by looking at how omnipresent it is now. And I'm even more impressed if I look at the age of the protocols and the design that powers the foundation of it, to this date. A lot of it has been adopted around 50 years ago. And the particular design choices scale so well, they pretty much still power an entirely different world 50 years later. I don't think it's humanly possible to do a substantially better job at something... But yeah, that doesn't take away from other things and consequences. I'm often a fan of the analogy with tools. The internet is a tool, and very much like a hammer that can be used to help build a house, or tear it down... It's not exactly the tool's fault for what it gets used for. I'm now getting really out of line for this community, so I'll try to make it short: I think abstraction is a very elemental design choice and what makes the internet great. The lower layers transport arbitrary stuff and that's what allowed us to build phones, watch TV over it... Things nobody envisioned half a century ago. We'd completely cripple it in that regard, by removing that abstraction between the layers. And that's what makes me think it can't be the internet (as in the transport layers) where we bake ethics into. It has to happen at the top, where things get applied and the individual platforms and services reside.

I'm sorry, it's way more complicated than that and more a topic for a long essay, and lots of it wouldn't be very "casual" to read, as you said. I don't think it's a sad story, though. It's just one taking place in the real world, where things are intertwined, have consequence and things often turn out in a way no-one anticipated. It's just complex and the world is a varied place. And this is highly political. I agree.