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hexbear.net is on sale for auction (infosec.pub)

submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/fediverselore@lemmy.ca

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Auction: https://www.sav.com/auctions/details/7073489/hexbear.net

Not sure what will happen, but seems to be a Fediverselore event for sure

Update: post from hexbear admin on chapo.chat: https://chapo.chat/post/4468531

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[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Where do you see this? Whois says:

Domain: hexbear.net
Registered On: 2021-01-12
Expires On: 2026-01-12
Updated On: 2025-02-11

That's also what sav.com says under domain details "Expiration Date."

Whois also says "client transfer prohibited." Fucking scumbags. Don't give them money.

[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Just off whois on linux, but I'm not clear why it lists two different sets of dates. I'm guessing querying the root whois vs the registrar, and hexbear is currently in the process of fixing their domain which is why one set is 2026.

~$ whois hexbear.net
   Domain Name: HEXBEAR.NET
   Registry Domain ID: 2584175083_DOMAIN_NET-VRSN
   Registrar WHOIS Server: whois-service.virtualcloud.co
   Registrar URL: http://sav.com/
   Updated Date: 2025-02-11T17:34:08Z
   Creation Date: 2021-01-12T00:35:22Z
   Registry Expiry Date: 2026-01-12T00:35:22Z
>>> Last update of whois database: 2025-02-11T20:42:41Z <<<

*snip*

Domain Name: HEXBEAR.NET
Registry Domain ID: 2584175083_DOMAIN_NET-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois-service.virtualcloud.co
Registrar URL: https://www.sav.com/
Updated Date: 2025-02-11T17:35:29Z
Creation Date: 2021-01-12T00:35:25Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2025-01-12T00:35:22Z
Registrar: SAV.COM, LLC
*snip*
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2025-02-11T17:35:29Z <<<

Unless the +1 year date is the registrar holding it for themselves to auction off, which seems equally likely.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 11 points 6 months ago

Unless the +1 year date is the registrar holding it for themselves to auction off, which seems equally likely.

Yeah, that's what it is. Whois actually explained it to me, and I didn't bother to read it the first time. I made an edit.

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Not them, but here you go

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Edit: Okay, I figured it out.

NOTICE: The expiration date displayed in this record is the date the
registrar's sponsorship of the domain name registration in the registry is
currently set to expire. This date does not necessarily reflect the expiration
date of the domain name registrant's agreement with the sponsoring
registrar.  Users may consult the sponsoring registrar's Whois database to
view the registrar's reported date of expiration for this registration.

So, as I had guessed, sav.com registered it "for them" for one year more than they actually wanted to register, and then when there was some minor billing issue, used it as an opportunity to do a cash grab. Fuck sav.com, is basically what I'm saying.

Previous comment, before the edit:

IDK what's going on with that web site, but it's wrong. Or, sav.com updated something to backdate the expiration or something else shady like that.

$ whois hexbear.net | head -n20
   Domain Name: HEXBEAR.NET
   Registry Domain ID: 2584175083_DOMAIN_NET-VRSN
   Registrar WHOIS Server: whois-service.virtualcloud.co
   Registrar URL: http://sav.com/
   Updated Date: 2025-02-11T17:34:08Z
   Creation Date: 2021-01-12T00:35:22Z
   Registry Expiry Date: 2026-01-12T00:35:22Z
   Registrar: Sav.com, LLC
   Registrar IANA ID: 609
   Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse-contact@sav.com
   Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.8885808790
   Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
   Name Server: NS1-EXPIRED.SAV.COM
   Name Server: NS2-EXPIRED.SAV.COM

I trust running whois more than I trust a web site. Like I say, I have no explanation why they would be wrong, but they're wrong. Maybe sav.com registers it "on behalf of" their clients, and sets the meta-expiration one year after to give them time to fuck around with auctions? Something weird like that? And then it's only paid until last month, and because a card had expired or something trivial like that, they decided to throw it into this auction process?

~~As much as I think it's funny to make fun of Hexbear, I don't think people should be celebrating them getting fucked over by criminals.~~

Edit: They're over on chapo.chat now, blaming the whole thing not on sav.com, or on themselves for choosing a registrar for an important server without doing due diligence, but on DNS itself and the architects of the internet. I take it back. Fuck 'em.

https://chapo.chat/post/4468515

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

~~As much as I think it’s funny to make fun of Hexbear, I don’t think people should be celebrating them getting fucked over by criminals.~~

Edit: They’re over on chapo.chat now, blaming the whole thing not on sav.com, or on themselves for choosing a registrar for an important server without doing due diligence, but on DNS itself and the architects of the internet. I take it back. Fuck 'em.

They are still the same