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I know I have small hands but c'mon. Flagship phones these days are strait up small tablets, not even what we'd have called on phablets 15 years ago.

I know it's what people buy, but I'm still sad that if I want a phone that small then I have to deal with camera and display a couple gens old

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[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (20 children)

This makes no sense. Large doesn't mean fancy. Back in the day, making the phone smaller was fancy.

Which has nothing to do with the the historical term and already established convention of the term “flagship”, no one has ever called their compact phone a flagship, got any proof to back that asinine claim up?

The minimal company's flagship phone is a minimal phone. It's their signature phone. The flagship was the ship that had the ranking officer/admiral on it, representing the fleet. Apple, google etc all decided their flagship phone would be huge.

If it’s not the fanciest and most expensive, then by definition and original convention, it’s no longer a flagship phone.

Terms have specific uses, let’s not dilute them to make ourselves feel better. Language IS fluid, but when people are obstinate to already preestablished conventions… a small phone will never by definition eve be considered a flagship, but bloviate if you want.

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (19 children)

Terms have specific uses, let’s not dilute them to make ourselves feel better. Language IS fluid, but when people are obstinate to already preestablished conventions

Ok there why didn't you bother opening a dictionary or googling it.

noun

the ship in a fleet which carries the commanding admiral.

the best or most important thing owned or produced by a particular organization.

He's just saying most phones companies (of all sizes) are making are big phones. Get over yourself

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world -2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (17 children)

So the smallest and worst ship would be the flagship? That’s the defence? Lmfao because that makes total sense dude…. And how is that supposed to defend what a flagship is?

How does that mean the smallest and most compact? As my original comment stated, that’s like claiming a cigar boat is the flagship, which no navy would do even if they were making smaller boats. Their largest and fanciest, would STILL be the flagship of the fleet….

I “did read a dictionary”, which is maybe why I’m speaking? OP fucked up what a flagship is meant to be. Atleast I’m not the one making up new definitions to defend my asinine defence. How does the definition support your argument? It would STILL mean the best and most resourceful unit. Which wouldn’t be the smallest…..

the finest, largest, or most important one of a group of things (such as products, stores, etc.)  —often used before another noun

Other definitions include “largest” why did you include the one that doesn’t…?

is the lead ship in a fleet of vessels, typically the first, largest, fastest, most heavily armed, or best known.

Which how is that the smallest and most compact…? That’s literally contradicting the established conventions dude lmfao. But again, bloviate about how you don’t understand language and want to make it what you want I guess…. Flagship has established conventions, and OP is asking for the opposite. Full stop.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Lol who said I wanted "the smallest and most compact"

You've lost the plot here, take the L

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Does “fit in your hand” not mean small and compact?

I’m not the one using the term flagship to mean a non flagship phone. You’re trying to change established definitions and conventions.

You want a fancy small phone, no phone manufacturer has ever called a phone that fits that description as a “flagship” so to say you miss the. Is just straight up bullshit and you being an idiot and not using established definitions correctly.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 0 points 6 months ago

Not only is that laughably not true

But even if it was true, it wouldn't mean anything because being a flagship phone isn't about size, it's about showing off your tech.

But like I said, I don't have to get hypothetical, because phones this big weren't considered flagships in the past, they were considered "notes" and "tabs"

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