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A LOT of Immigrants and Illegals in the US are very pro-Trump. I spoke with a few in my old neighborhood to get their take.
They said that the government didn't worry them because it wasn't that far off from where they came from. They felt elitism created niches where someone knowledgeable could profit. Party of the entrepreneurs and all.
Two said they didn't want any more immigrants here, they felt pressure from the incoming immigrants to take their places and out-compete them for work.
Because this was the last trump presidency, there was less deportation talking. I'm sure that gave some concern, but If I had to guess based on their psyche, I'd say they expected the deportation to lighten the low-hanging fruit and take the pressure off their own jobs at the same time, expecting them would just be ok because they were always ok.
Works even for inmigrants
I get the concept of the meme. There are a lot of people out there 'worried' about immigrants taking their (absolutely safe, no fucking way they are going to get that job) jobs
However, fresh immigration does drive down the pay for trade work in areas where immigrants are skilled. Bricklayers, Drywallers, Painters, and Guys slinging up ductwork are getting paid peanuts.
Immigrants coming in do compete for the jobs other immigrants already hold. Any if their status is in question, they'll work even cheaper.
-proceeds to not understand the concept of the meme and repeat provably false anti-immigration talking points-
Is this the literacy crisis everyone is talking about? Chat, are we cooked?
Yes, you're cooked.
Cookied.
And therein lies the problem. "It's always been good for me so the suffering of others doesn't bother me."
That lies at the root of most of our problems. There are more than enough resources to support everyone at a reasonable level if they were distributed fairly. People with empathy think that's the way it should be. People without it are happy to have everyone else suffer as long as they benefit. Our political system, our press, and large parts of our cultural heritage all favor the latter.
How can anyone think that a few people having billions of dollars is reasonable in a world where there is hunger, homelessness, and lack of medical care?
So what you're saying is mentally they were already republicans in that they had the "fuck you I got mine" mindset.
Yes, unfortunately, a lot of the rhetoric resonated with them. I pondered trying to reason them out of it. After poking around a bit, it seems like it's part of their social integration. They took a chance, made it in, and worked hard for what they had. It was like a survival instinct to beat out the competition without empathy. I don't even know how to argue against that.