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[–] ssboomman@lemm.ee 31 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Was there any advantage to having it lean like that?

[–] Sordid@kbin.social 59 points 2 years ago (2 children)

In defensive terms, no, not really. They had to build it like this because these aren't really walls per se, it's just brick lining on the outside of an earthen mound, and mounds are, well, mound-shaped. https://gomadnomad.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Bukharas-Ark-Palace.jpg

[–] BB69@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

It would’ve made siege ladders harder to set up.

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You’d think there’d be a reason beyond construction requirements, though—otherwise someone in the past 1,500 years would have replaced it with a more conventional wall.

[–] Sordid@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago

They did. This is only the oldest, innermost fortification in the city. AFAIK additional layers of walls were build around it later.

[–] jerkbank@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is it a lean, or is it wider at the bottom?

[–] Ricaz@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This question confuses me geometrically

[–] b14700@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Sordid@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It's _/‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾\_ shaped. It's not freestanding walls, the whole thing is an earthen mound with a flat top and its sides lined with bricks.

[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

So it's not walls then I suppose. Just the slopes of a flat topped pyramid like thing. I mean, it still provided a height advantage, but it feels like they have lesser cover from arrows than they would have if it was like a conventional wall.

[–] Belgdore@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not this one, but newer forts were built with angled walls to help protect against canon balls and the like.

[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But there the walls were still vertical to the ground yeah?

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Harder to knock down or undermine?

[–] rDrDr@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You'd think it would lean the other way to make bit harder to climb.

Edit: or this could be a view from the inside. Or maybe the goal is to keep people in rather than out.

Edit again: none of these things seem true according to Wikipedia. It's curved inwards and it houses the rich, so it seems to just be aesthetics.

[–] No_Eponym@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

Well clearly it's because the castle defenders of that era were quite sophisticated, but simply don't dance they just pull up their pants and do the rockaway.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago