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@nephs Look, racism has been around WAY longer than class struggle. You don't want to call them capitalists. Even Mao made a distinction between national capitalism and compradore capitalism. I don't hate anybody. I know my enemies are not the people who want to start their own businesses. They are the people who want to deny any good things to the people they don't like. Socialism hasn't cured racism or sexism in >100 years. Get real. It never will.
Every socialist nation is against racism.
And cuba, for example, has the new family code.
Read about them before you make assumptions.
I can agree racism exists before capitalism.
I can agree socialism isn't the cure for racism or sexism. And I believe everyone in this forum will condemn any form of socialism that marginalises minorities, either for race, or gender, or any other oppressed minorities.
"socialism" without concern for minorities drifts into the authoritarian regimes we know are shit. But also, minority fights without class theory will just make a few individuals from each minority group slightly better, without actually improving material life conditions for most, if not all, people.
But... I mean, I'm just kind of freestyling the theory I "know". Fuck racists, fuck capitalists, fuck racist capitalists and capitalist racists. :)
Read on Authority (it's like a page long)
A link for the masses: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1872/10/authority.htm
My argument was not against authority, my argument was against oppression against minorities.
Which concepts would you use to make the argument against oppressing minorities?
The parallel I was trying to draw was about minority abstract fights, without class theory becomes identitarism. But a "socialist" fight without concern for minorities, runs the risk of becoming fascism, on the limit, running purely on dogma, tradition, majority, and rigidity.
Is that disagreeable? Am I mixing up concepts? What am I missing?
@nephs Fuck all those people, but the fact is, we won't get rid of racism with socialism. We need to START by getting rid of ISMs. Period.
Le 'apolitical' Centrist has arrived
Having read all your other comment, I will now ask. What is your solution? You say socialism can't solve racism. Okay, let's go from there. What can solve it? How do we get rid of ISMs? How do we deal with the aforementioned christofascists? How do we stop the scapegoating of LGBTQ, BIPOC, women and elderly?
What is your proposed solution?