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Rep. Dan Crenshaw criticized Apple Maps for not renaming the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America, as mandated by Trump’s recent executive order titled “Restoring Names that Honor American Greatness.”

Crenshaw’s complaint reflects broader conservative frustration, as tech platforms and the global community continue to use the original name.

Critics compare the move to past nationalist gestures like renaming french fries "freedom fries," accusing conservatives of embracing identity politics and culture wars despite their political dominance.

The name change is unlikely to gain international traction.

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[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sorry if this has been asked elsewhere, but who even has the legal right to rename the gulf? It doesn't belong to USA, right? So we can't just rename it, right? If we did, everybody else in the world would keep calling it The Gulf of Mexico, right?

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If we did, everybody else in the world would keep calling it The Gulf of Mexico, right?

Most countries don't call it "The Gulf of Mexico". For example in my country it's "Mexický záliv".

[–] Laser@feddit.org 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Did you know that Confucius was one of the rudest people to ever live? He never said "thank you" or "please" in his entire life.

Point is this is just Golf of Mexico in another language. Maybe not 100% literal, but it associates the site with the country Mexico, not America (which Mexico is a part of, but I'm not sure MAGAts understand or want to understand the nuance).

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The point is that the Czech name for the gulf has nothing to do with how Americans are calling it, it's not even the same language. Why should be care Trump calls it different? He's not our president, you know.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, it's not like we English speakers call Germany Deutschland. And it's not like we call the Persian Gulf the Iranian gulf after Iran changed it's name.

To a certain degree countries respect other countries' rights to nominative self determination. It's actually pretty similar to how we respect people's nominative self determination. When a country we interact with regularly significantly changes their name we generally adapt, but we typically do so in our own language, and we often don't bother if they don't mind the nickname we use.

Geographic features on the other hand, we usually need a good reason. There's a reason they're typically officially called whatever they're actually called. The back and forth over the naming of Denali is weird in part because most Americans barely remembered it's existence between name changes.

[–] Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Mexico is a part of the continent of America. Not the country. Devil's in the details and all.

[–] Laser@feddit.org 2 points 1 year ago

I never claimed otherwise 😉 a country named "America" doesn't exist to my knowledge.

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] EpeeGnome@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I just checked there, and they have not renamed it, nor have they listed the new name as a recognized alternate name.

Whether of not an executive order can override the government agency specifically granted that authority by congress is of no concern to them. By law, the Board of Geographic Names is the final authority on geographic names. If they don't go along with this change, then the Trump admin would have to file an inter-government lawsuit about it.