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Genshin Impact Game Developer Will be Banned from Selling Lootboxes to Teens Under 16 without Parental Consent, Pay a $20 Million Fine to Settle FTC Charges (www.ftc.gov)
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[–] Zozano@aussie.zone -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (9 children)

For what it's worth, the Hoyo "loot boxes" are quite fair because of the pity system:

  • Every 10 pulls you'll get one if the featured 4* characters
  • Within 90 pulls you're guaranteed to get a 5* (though you'll almost certainly get it between 74-80 pulls)
  • When you get a 5*, there's a 50% chance of getting the featured character
  • If you lose the 50/50, the next 5* will be the featured character.
  • The pity system persists through each banner.

Each patch, free players will have enough resources to guarantee one of the featured characters and their signature weapon (provided they do their daily tasks and clear the content).

I've been playing Star Rail since launch, never purchased any premium currency. It's certainly the fairest form of gacha I've seen.

It kinda sucks that Hoyo is being targeted, when the system is so transparent and forgiving. There are MUCH more predatory systems out there.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Nothing inside a video game should cost real money.

Making it gambling is a thousand times worse. That fundamental abuse can't be fixed by tweaking numbers.

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

In theory I agree, but live service games need to be sustainable somehow. Subscriptions are one method, but create a barrier to entry past the trial phase.

I don't think about the Hoyo model as gambling (it is), as the vast majority of successful pulls happen between 74-80 pulls.

In any case, I don't disagree with you, but simply pointing out the obscurity claimed in the article is false, the system is transparent and fair, compared to other games which are far more deserving of being regulated.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

'Ban this entire business model.' 'But this business model must succeed, somehow.'

Fuck 'em.

Subscriptions are harder because that's what it looks like when consumers make rational decisions. This bullshit alternative has infected everything by tricking people into throwing money at approximately dick. Not all people - but enough people.

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