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Year of the ~~Linux Desktop~~ Fediverse!

Side note, DAE find calling them "normies" kinda icky? It's like straight outta 4chan

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 138 points 7 months ago (49 children)

The advantages most of us see in the Fediverse (lack of corporate control, low algorithm interference) are seen by most normal users as either of little importance, or actively detrimental. The Fediverse requires you engage with it to cultivate a feed that gives you what you're interested in. But the people fleeing to Rednote want a strong algorithm that feeds them what they want, and they don't mind influence games being played by the algorithm in exchange for this convenience.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Recommendation engines aren't the biggest issue. People will figure out how to fins what they want, and be generally happy with that, if looking is easy enough.

The big issue is that "join the fediverse" is a really, really shitty and incomplete recommendation. It's like "join the blogosphere!"

And "join Mastodon" or "join Lemmy" is bad, too. It's like asking them to "join Joomla".

You need to point people to the specific website they should join, and that website has to already have what they're looking for. People aren't interested in building something.

They just want to consume.

[–] BlemboTheThird@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You know, if this rednote thing really takes off, I don't think I can believe the whole "fediverse is too complicated" thing anymore. People are moving to an app that isn't even fully in English. That's WAY more complicated than picking a random instance out of a list (or more likely, just going to the one big one). I'm getting to where I think the vast majority of people just click on what's advertised no matter how stupid it is, and without ads (not people spreading things by word of mouth, I mean actual "ooh, shiny" ads) mainstream uptake of the fediverse will never happen. Good luck outspending the big corps on that.

Might be for the best anyway. The type of people who respond to ads probably aren't particularly fun to engage with.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Just made an account on Xiaohongshu and saw literally no Chinese during the process other than the logo. The first Chinese I saw were the titles of videos.

This was the first I saw. But by then, my account is already made and I can already see and enjoy content. I don't think it's as much of a barrier as you believe it is.

[–] P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I recommend you to censor your name

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Oh shit, thanks for the heads up! But this is not my real name. I got it as a captcha years ago and thought it was funny, so it's just some random email address I have as a backup. I've still removed it for good measure.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They chose the app specifically because its chinese, they still have every other tiktok clone, like clapper (lol), snapchat spotlight, youtube shorts and instagram reels.

[–] BlemboTheThird@lemmy.ca 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Whatever the reason, navigating that is still more complicated than navigating Lemmy or Mastodon

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

I agree, but thats why they chose it.

[–] P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's mire simple because they have actual designers that design the app to users to use, so it's not that much difficult to navigate, with all the icons and familiar patterns.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's amazing the things you can do with UX when your platform takes in enough money that you can support a UI/UX team.

~~don't ask where that money came from or why kthx~~

[–] P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

(some oss projects outright decline help from actual designers by the way)

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think that's just a mean rumor the Gentoo devs started to get back at the Debian devs for that incident with the penguin fursuit...

[–] P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 7 months ago

The who for what??

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