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[–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I see this sentiment frequently. What I don't see, though, is how this can cmbe achieved short of government owned uniform housing. Maybe I'm missing something, though. Can you helpe understand?

With regard to Japan, you're right, single family homes aren't intended to last all that long. This is largely because building standards there change so rapidly thst building something that lasts means that you wasted money. Even if it is built to last, it will fall out of code in a way that it will devalue over time.

That doesn't happen in the US because we don't have the same frequency of disasters and the same rate of change in building codes. Maybe that will change moving forward, though, given the increased frequency of disasters in the US due to climate change.

[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Throw a few of these up in every city. Would go a long ways quickly to solving problems.

[–] LordGimp@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh good megablock housing. I'm sure that won't be abused in any way whatsoever

[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As opposed to the suburban sprawl we have now? Every lawn fertilized, every driveway 2.5 cars? Or the shanty towns?

It turns out building housing is as easy as building housing. I would absolutely live in one of these if they were correctly managed. A half a billion Chinese people can't be all that wrong.

[–] LordGimp@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can't be wrong? I'm gonna have to point you to Kowloon. Kowloon was pretty wrong. They didn't call it the city of darkness for nothing.

[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Using kwaloon walked city is disingenuous AF. Kowloon was a shanty town left to its own devices, governed neither by the British or the Chinese due to a quirk of geography and diplomacy. Kowloon (the walled city area now a park, not to be confused with the neighborhood) was never built to any sort of plan.

At it height kwaloon had 40,000 people living in it. In hong Kong alone there's now close to 10million, most of whom live in apartment buildings. It can work. It does work. Every day.

I swear to God it's like my countrymen saw a rap video shot in the projects and now think the crack epidemic was the fault of public housing.

[–] LordGimp@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually I saw dredd cause Karl urban is rad af. We don't need more Peachtrees. We need to eradicate Airbnb and make the housing we already have accessible to the people that need it and barred from the people that hold property for profit.

People need space in the same way that some people need religion. It's not actually necessary until you consider comfort along with efficiency.

[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Go take a look on google maps. There's parks, nature. You can have a connection with outside spaces and nature without living in a subdivision.

Dreds a dope movie. Might be one of the best action films IMHO

[–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So, projects? I would love to see a solution to home prices and the inequality they create but I think projects have been shown to work out poorly in the US.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 6 points 1 year ago

They only work out poorly in some plsces due to neglect. You have to give social services to the residents.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because we didn't do them properly (in many cases, intentionally). For an example of public housing done right, all one needs to do is look to Finland: https://pulitzercenter.org/stories/look-finlands-housing-first-initiative

[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I swear to God it's like my countrymen saw a rap video shot in the projects when they were young, and now think the crack epidemic was the fault of public housing.