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Please do not remove mods, really sorry for the Google AMP link, but this is a "subscribers only" blocked article on CNN that for some reason AMP just straight up bypasses and opens fine.

Direct link: https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/10/us/jury-nullification-luigi-mangione-defense/index.html.

Edit 1: updated title, CNN changed it on me

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[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He's got parallel New York state and federal charges going at the same time. Under double jeopardy rules, those are two separate cases, and if he wins one, he can still lose the other.

On the state case, at least, both 1st and second degree are charged. The jury doesn't decide on 2nd degree unless and until they decide not guilty on 1st degree. The process is:

  • Decide 1st degree charge.
  • if not guilty on 1st, consider and decide on 2nd degree.
  • is not guilty on 2nd degree, consider manslaughter or anything else on the charge sheet...
  • etc.

All of that happens after one trial, and it's all in one deliberation session. If the jury gets through all of that with a not guilty on everything, then the state can't try again, and they can't appeal.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Note: I don't think we have a whole lot of evidence saying that the elite in this case will abide by double jeopardy laws anyway.

Since we're already in a time where there are two justice systems, there's nothing to say they can't charge him in the Court Above and make it legal.

We have watched a man get off completely free and become president despite felonies and breaking the law. What's to say the court needs to follow that law too?

I really think the elite have no idea how much fire they are playing with here, and we're about to see it go down, one way or the other. We are in an era of no winners.

[–] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago

Hell, not just felonies, but inciting insurrection, which makes him ineligible to be president again... The fact that that's being ignored says it all, I have no faith they'll honor double jeopardy laws with someone like Luigi who they have such a massive hard-on to get

But even if they do let a not guilty stand, I'm sure Thompson's family will sue him into the ground

He’s got parallel New York state and federal charges going at the same time. Under double jeopardy rules, those are two separate cases, and if he wins one, he can still lose the other.

And if he is acquitted on both, perhaps they will invent "continental murder", "planetary murder" or "solar system murder". Or he just takes his own life while in prison, that is something that happens.