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unfortunately this country is increasingly leaning towards martin luther's take on reason:
That is not a great quote to use fyi (I mean this one here by Martin Luther - whereas the one from Carl Sagan is fantastic imho:-).
I have heard an analogy in that it is like saying that the Mind is one's greatest adversary to a child learning how to swim - true, but when quoted out of the surrounding context (in this case iirc it was Reason alone, unaided by Faith - or something to that effect but I could be misremembering so don't take this part as... well... gospel, pun intended:-) really comes off super poorly. Similarly with wanting to exercise - "Mind" here does not mean merely "mind" as in mental faculties, just as "Reason" != "reason".
Also the quote is disputed as even coming from Martin Luther himself rather than one of his students.
More at https://randalrauser.com/2011/10/quote-others-the-way-you-would-have-them-quote-you/ in case it helps.
Now a quote of my own (by me, from right this second): if we want to rise above the teeming unwashed masses and truly use Reason, then we need to hold ourselves to a higher standard (than those we accuse of not doing such). It's just a thought: do as you will with it.
That’s a terrible counter argument. “Oh maybe he meant something different, you might not know the context surrounding how he plainly said it in 8 different ways you just quoted”
Is this what Christian academia is like? How pathetic.
"This person held this opinion"
"There are several reasons that may be an inaccurate and reductive account of that person's opinions and of historical events in general"
"Okay but, for real, that's so wishy washy bro. Context? That's just, like, a term. How pathetic."
You're making a great case for the Catholic Church burning uneducated people alive for voicing opinions.
tf?
There's a button for that.
I felt that it didn't quite express the sentiment adequately.