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I don't know why people bother to buy foldable phones, if you want bigger screen just buy tablet....smh...
Tablet has bigger screen plus it's cheaper than buying foldable phones
Tablet doesn't fit in my pocket.
Buy a larger pocket. Easy.
Time to bring the JNCO's back
I absolutely miss the unlimited fuck outta those very useful pockets, goddamn those jeans were just too good for the market. Fuck, my shorts had deepass pockets with a smaller little pocket on the outside for shit like your wallet or w/e
og jncos were just too good for us fuck 😭
I have a foldy phone, I'm never going back.
I did, multiple times, sooo many times in all manner of price points, sizes, brands and even OSs (I've got fucking Windows tablets WITH cellular FFS just chilling in archive). Do you know what happened to them? They started collecting dust within a couple weeks
I don't want to carry multiple devices, even when I do want to I can never get the habit to stick, so I never have the tablet when I need it the most
My foldy phone solves that issue immediately, it's a phone when I need a phone and a tablet when I need a tablet.
I'm just curious
Does the screen vertical folding bulge area (idk if it has its own name) somehow get in the way during day-by-day usage?
Do you mean the crease? Nah, I hardly notice it, I used to feel it when sliding my finger across one side to the next like to drag and drop things, but after awhile I stopped noticing that to
Do you have one of those who fold along the longer side or the shorter one?
I have the book-style pixel 9 pro fold.
The clam-shell style is truly a gimmicky nostalgia-grab IMO
I tried a pixel 9 fold for a little while, it was neat but way overpriced for the novelty, and there are no cases worth a damn that aren't attached entirely by glue strips. Returned it and got a pixel 9 XL instead.
If they can make one with the same width/height as the XL (big hands, too many typos on the small screen keyboard), for under 1500, id probably go for it
That's mine right now lol, I also had the OG Pixel Fold. I don't find it to be a novelty for me. Def a bit on the expensive side, but since I buy my phones through the carrier on EIP anyways it's meh.
I use the Poetic Spartan case and it's solid, it has the adhesive strips, but I don't use them (I just took em off) though it adds some heft, it's worth it considering the amount of drops my phone has taken its protected against lol
I had one of the Ghostek ones. I went through Best Buy (unlocked, to try Grapheneos; which handled switching screens much better than i expected) due to good return policy and no restock fees in Ohio.
Why have a phone with a screen? Just use your computer if you need it, smh 🤦
Why have a phone at all? Just ask a friend to use theirs if you need it 🤷♂️ or maybe write a fucking letter for once? Damn kids...
Why have a friend at all?
going to my basement
Why have a computer when you can just use one at the library? smh
Why use a computer when you can just wander, naked and fearless, back into the forest from whence we came. Climb a tree. Make a nest of leaves. Screech "Ook Ook!" to let everyone know this is your tree now.
Reject modernity.
Embrace Mokee
I only contact people via my QRP rig, CW mode. Don't talk to me unless you have a valid HAM licence.
Bigger screen and fits in my pocket.
I guess you have to try one. I got a samsung fold 3, i loved it. Then, when my contract ended, i got a fold 6. I would have a hard time going back to a standard phone tbh.
My wife said she wouldnt get a folding phone but when i got my fold 6 i offered her my fold 3. She ended up really liking it and wants to get a newer fold when her contract ends.
So theres me, who knew i wanted one and am happy with it to the point where i cant go back. And my wife, who didnt want one but after trying one for a few weeks, said she got it now and would be upgrading to a newer fold when the time comes.
They need to get these in peoples hands if they want to sell them better.
My desktop and laptop are too clunky for day to day stuff. There are a wide range of things i now do on my phone that would be less than possible on a normal phone screen.
I dont blame you for not seeing the benefits. Like i said earlier, you need to try it to get it.
As for a self destructing screen, its nonsense. There are 5 people at my work that have folding phones. There are 2 fold 4's 2 fold 5's and a fold 3 as well as my fold 6, theres also my wife who has my 3 year old fold 3 and my brother who now has a pixel fold and no one has a broken screen. Oh! My mum and her partner both had flip 3 phones and have just bought the flip 6s and her partner ended up getting a fold 5 last year. No broken screens.
If you know anyone who has broken a folding screen, that person would have a brokwn screen regardless of having a folding phone or not. The amount of broken screens or damages cases i see in my day to day is insane.
I know even all of the examples i gave are anecdotal, but your claim about self destructive screens is simply false and not backed up with anything.
I expect to have my fold 6 in 5 years still as good as when i bought it.
What do you mean by seam? Do you mean the crease? If so, it is nothing. I've never even close to cared about it, and in all my time using these phones, it hasnt been a problem, even once.
If you mean something else, then please elaborate because i dont know about it.
In regards to it replacing a laptop or desktop, that's not what it's for. It can replace some of the functions of a laptop or desktop, i can game on it using apps or streaming from my ps5, or emulators with an external controller like a gamesir make it into a respectable handheld. I can comfortably manage emails, shopping, web browsing, lemmy, social media, photo and video editing. I also use it for playing music (displaying sheet music) and composing music with cubase elements and fl studio. It also works as a midi controller for various insteuments and effects processors.
Im sorry but just because you dont see the use cases, it doesn't mean there isn't any. Arguing against folding phones is almost the same as arguing against tablets. Which have a decades long legacy of being extremely useful.
But again. I dont replace my laptop or desktop with this thing. I replace some functions and i compliment or augment others.
Because my keyboard looks like this. It's fast enough, and if you learn how to use shortcuts, suggestions, and cursor control etc its easy in its own way.
Maybe you just dont spend enough time with touchscreens because of your clear disdane for them.
Tablets aren't a flop. Estimates say there are at least 1 billion users worldwide, and they have a lot of niche functionality not provided by laptops, as i have previously mentioned.
Regardless. You, a none foldable user who clearly thinks desktops/laptops are the best user experience and most functional, telling me, a foldable phone user who has both a desktop, and a laptop, and i work in IT on a laptop daily that my foldable is not a perfectly reasonable and legitimate user experience is a bit odd.
I have experience of both, you have experience of one (or so it seems based on your posts) and you are telling me i am wrong about my experience because you dont think it's possible. It's just a bit rich....
I know you might think you dont need to use one to conclude you won't like one. But i contend that after having one as a daily driver for almost 4 years, I could not go back to a non foldable. It would be too restricting.
Sounds like you aren't the market for touch screen devices. Most people get on with them just fine.
A phone with a slide out keyboard with buttons so tiny that only a mouse could use them? Sorry to exaggerate a bit, but it's a 4 inch screen. That keyboard must be awkard. I guess a blackberry would have suited you, too?
The reason they dont make physical keyboards for phones much anymore is be ause they dont work well and people dont like them.
You manage a website? What's your monthly hit count? How many of those users have foldables? Can you rely on the user agent to identify a tablet? Or is it possible that they just appear the same as a phone? Or a foldable? (it is). What if they use desktop mode? do you think your websites number of tablet users is representative of the overall global users?
I used google to determine the number of tablet users globally and averaged a number from multiple sources.
Tbh, it seems like your view is "if it doesn't line up with my preconceived ideas, then it must not be true"
Which isnt a great way to look at things.
Ok, i assure you, the droid 3's keys are not larger than my foldables keys. And if you push them with your thumbs, then they are not better than a touch screen keyboard for typing speed. They are also more than likely prone to as many errors as a touchscreen keyboard. Muscle memory will play a big role in how well they work for the individual.
Yes, people dont like physical keyboards on phones, or else there would be a market for them, and you would not be complaining about not being able to find any modern phones with physical keyboards. Clearly, they dont satisfy a need that enough people out there have. I think you need to accept that you are in a minority of people who like phones with physical keyboards. Incidentally, a minority smaller than the market share of tablets.
Fair enough, tablet market share is around 2% when compared to mobile and desktop/laptop. pretty low, but high enough that they are still being manufactured and sold.
As for the irony, i have used a phone with a slide out keyboard. It was a samsung from a long time ago, im struggling to remember its name, but it looked a lot like this one:
So i am sticking to that point.
Touch typing (assuming your meaning typing without looking at the keyboard) is not impossible. Im doing it right now..... muscle memory is a big part of it. Dont forget autocorrect and grammar and spelling suggestions do help as well.
Regardless. Who needs touch typing on a phone? You are typing slowly enough to follow exactly what you type without needing to check the text box above to see what you typed.
Let's not pretend that touch typing on a keyboard for thumbs is the same as touch typing on a full-size keyboard. It's waaaay closer to touchscreen typing, especially on my folding phone inner screen.
They may not have tactile feedback, but they do respond with a tiny vibration to show you did hit the key, which is more than enough to alert you if you missed one.
Look, i'm sorry you suck at typing on a touchscreen keyboard, but that doesn't make you right automatically.
And are you just going to forget that you mentioned i have never used a slide out phone keyboard as a point against my argument. but actually i have and now you are just saying you would have liked the samsung one i showed you? Not conceeding anything there? No?
It's just muscle memory. It's easier with physical keys, but I've used a phone of this shape for over 3 years now, and im using it all the time, so touch typing is just what happens with time.
Maybe playing a musical instrument helps as a lot of that is muscle memory spacial awareness.
Tbh i dont think we should continue this discussion, i would say we just have different needs in our devices. You won't see it my way as my way doesn't meet your needs, and the same goes for me and your needs.
Having said that, i also dont think it's helpful for anyone to decide we know something is bad without personal experience or knowledge of the personal experience of those that have it.
I'm happy to conceed. i came into this ready to argue, but i think it's better not to.
You keep calling android/ios a toy operating system. Your bias is showing.
Its not charitable to call tablets niche. It's accurate. The same goes for 2-in-1 "convertable" laptops.
Fact is, if you are arguing that a laptop that doubkes as a tablet is a good device then you are arguing that the need/want and use case for tablets is great enough that they are augmenting laptops into tablets to satisfy that need for consumers.
Going back to the original point. Foldables are good devices that cover a range of needs that are not met by regular phones. You dont need a laptop to do these things, and i can't put a laptop in my pocket and use it absolutely anywhere by just taking it out of my pocket and pressing the power button.
Your insistance on arguing that desktops and laptops are the only way to do anything is just wrong. That is proven by the market share. Desktops have about 35% and phones have about 60%
Its not even close.
But you introduce another number of downsides. "Non-toy" OS's are notoriously bad at touch screen operation, mobile OS's are brilliant at it. Convertable laptops are heavier and have more moving and breakable parts, the batteries dont last as long, the screens are more fragile, they are less widely covered by competant repair services as they are fairly unique in their design, in that they will be harder to get parts for.
Incidentally. Using a custom rom for an android phone mitigates your offence to being "told what you are allowed to do" with your device, and even linux has mobile OS's.
No, my argument is that they cover a large number of functions that mean i dont need to lug a laptop around with me everywhere. Of course, i will use a laptop or desktop if i can't do something i need to do on my phone, but it's so rare now that i dont even know if my laptop is charged.
Like i mentioned making music. I will use cubasis (sorry, i said elemennts before. That was the one i have on my pc) to sketch out songs. But use my pc when i need a proper recording. But the convenience of composing on my phone (which would be very hard on a none folding or tablet sized screen) takes the majority of the need for my PC for making music away.
Anyway, you are just telling me that your specific use case means you prefer a full desktop and desktop OS. But your pretentiousness ignores that the majority of people dont need that setup. And whilst my needs might include some niche stuff, many of my needs more closely align with the needs of the many.
In a question of which is better, the device that meets the needs of the majority is best. Unless you are asking which is best for me, in which case a comparison is meaningless. As all of our needs are different in small ways.
I don't use a foldable phone... But you can't put a tablet into your pocket. It's meant to be the dimensions of a phone, just much thicker, so it fits into your pocket, while letting you fold it out to have double the screen size. For all the issues they have, that's a very reasonable and somewhat appealing feature.
I have the same question about tablets. A tablet to me is like a laptop without anything good about a laptop.
I exclusively use my tablet for writing (and at uni I almost exclusively write by hand). But for that one thing it's awesome.
That's cool. I could definitely see having used one for drawing if I'd had one in college, but I'm old so that wasn't a thing yet then.
tablet screen size is okay, but really the people who want bigger screens should be buying tvs. not to mention they have the advantage of being cheaper than tablets. but even tv screens can only get so big. a really cost effective way to get a big screen would just be to go to a movie theater. that’s like 10 dollars(?) for 2 hours of access to a huge screen.
I have similar question: Why did Samsung bother with developing foldable phones? It isn't selling as well as they thought, after all.
It did decently for a while, then better competitors came to the scene that didn't make the asinine decision to make it ridiculously skinny and ol Sammy refuses to change course on that so sales have been falling
Word.
Phone for, uh, phone stuff, while I'm out and about. Pixel 4a, $70 on eBay.
PC and TV screen for internet.
Crappy $25 tablet for reading epubs.
Lemmy: NO! I want all my use cases on ONE device that doesn't do any of them well!
OK, pay out the ass for it along with the associated global warming and ecosystem trashing. Oh, and the slave labor that took to produce it.
Lemmy: NO! Not like that!
Because electronics in general, including TV, PC and regular phones, aren't associated with slave labour lmao
Also, good job on combating climate change and ecosystem trashing by not buying one device, but four of them!
Imagine I want to read an epub or do some gaming, or watch a show while commuting. Do you suggest that I bring all my devices with me on the bus instead of just the foldable phone?