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[โ€“] Buffalox@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (22 children)

It's actually nice they have underscore. ๐Ÿ˜€
Yes because if you choose 8 characters at random, with 25 small + 25 big letters and 10 numeric, it* only 60^8 = 167,961,600,000,000 combinations.
I think the problem is more if the system allows brute force with thousands of erroneous attempts.
Then statistically any hacker can attempt several accounts, and ultimately get lucky. But by all means, put the responsibility to the user, users are the experts right!?
I never got the frantic excessive entropy mindset, when the problem is much simpler to not allow crackers endless attempts. You can allow 50 attempts, and chances would be very slim to guess even pretty moronic passwords.

What's even worse is when they REQUIRE big and small and numbers to maximize entropy, they actually make statistically FEWER attempts necessary to brute force it.
A standard Microsoft introduced in the 90's, and FUCKING almost everybody is using, despite it's a 100% moronic requirement.
Instead just warn against passwords that can be guessed by logic, or can be found in a dictionary.

[โ€“] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 12 points 7 months ago (18 children)

Most websites don't allow multiple failed logins and, even if they did, the network latency alone would make brute force attacks useless. The point of having a high entropy password is to protect against hackers brute forcing a leaked database of hashes. Having different passwords for every website also protects against this so, as usual, the answer is "just use a password manager".

The point of having a high entropy password is to protect against hackers brute forcing a leaked database of hashes.

I don't think you need to worry about that in this case, the special character restriction suggests to me that they don't hash it.

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