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[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 301 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Another moral victory for Democrats. If only such victories mattered.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 87 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Imagine a tug of rope where only one side is pulling.

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

The other side just pushed the rope, it doesn't necessarily put the other side at any more of an advantage than just letting go, but it absolutely puts you at a disadvantage because well, you just can't be bothered to pull that rope as well as signalling you're not willing to play the game. Rejecting progressives was pushing the rope, Liz fucking Cheney and all the Republican pandering was pushing the rope. The last minute drop out was pushing the rope.

I'm not giving these shitters another vote until they run serious progressive politicians and policies. We are at rock bottom, and I'll be damned if I enable this shit again.

[–] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 9 months ago

Use the intervening years to vote in local politics, primaries, whatever else you have. Take action, don't just wait for the next presidential election to make a vacuous point of non-participation. Boycotting votes does no good, and in a top-heavy system, handing over control of the top to the still objectively worse side is too much of a gamble, but building progressive support from the ground up is not just safer, it may also make the bend-overs worry about their own dominance enough to start at least holding the rope and make life a little harder for the other side.

Also, support whatever measures you find to abolish FPTP. It's the reason the whole thing is a tug of war in the first place. Just about any alternative is better.

[–] takeda@lemm.ee 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

How you expect this would end up if Democrats would do January 6th?

VP has no such power, what they were trying to do in 2021 was to make Pence do it and hope it would be unchallenged. And if someone challenged it hoping that conservative court would side with Republicans like they did in 2001.

[–] Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Firehosing wet gristle into the storm drains after multiple entrenched units opened fully automatic fire at head level into the crowd.

Followed by oooh, let's call it 150 years of denying it ever happened and using the phrases "Bloody Tuesday" "Inauguration elimination" or "January 6th. 2025" in any online medium results in an annual audit for your entire extended family and local police having a picture of you and a set of darts delivered.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

China people paste on the ground style?

Bold move

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago

The big imaginary arbiter is going to drop down from the sky, any day now.