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New York City has become the first U.S. city to implement a congestion charge, with car drivers paying up to $9 daily to enter areas south of Central Park.

The scheme aims to reduce traffic and fund public transport but has faced opposition, including from Donald Trump, who has vowed to overturn it.

Fees vary by vehicle type, with trucks and buses paying higher rates.

Despite legal challenges, the initiative moves forward as New York remains the world's most congested urban area, with peak traffic speeds averaging just 11 mph.

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[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I wonder how this will affect elections. I figure Governor Hochul "indefinitely" paused the program last summer to avoid hurting Democrats in the 2024 election. The next mayoral election in NYC is in November of this year and the next election of the governor is in November 2026. Right now both the mayor and the governor are not popular and congestion pricing has a lot of opponents. Maybe people will get used to it before the elections, which is what Hochul is betting on, but there will almost certainly be a new mayor (for reasons unrelated to congestion pricing) and Hochul's chances of being reelected aren't great either.

With all that and opposition from Trump, I think there's a good chance that congestion pricing won't last very long. (I can't say I would be sad.) The congestion pricing hardware cost over $500 million to build, and the expected income from the toll would take over a year to cover that. The MTA's budget will be in big trouble if congestion pricing ends up not even paying for itself.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't recall the name of the effect, but there's a characteristic curve that shows up on the graph of public support for these kinds of changes. The hysterical outrage peaks at the time of implementation, but falls off as time goes on. If it has visible benefits, and it lasts, a lot of people will claim that they supported it all along, by November 2026.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 1 year ago

Happens the same with smoking bans and such. After a couple of years, even people who smoke and protested the bans notices how indoors dosen't smell like shit anymore.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

People can get used to anything. I think it's also likely that the Democratic party will not put forth any serious candidates who oppose congestion pricing, most people aren't going to be single-issue voters about it, and even if someone who opposes it gets elected then he'll still have a hard time getting rid of it for all the reasons why it's always hard to lower taxes. Trump might manage to kill it, but if he doesn't then I wouldn't bet on it ending even if it does cost Hochul the election.

(But I wouldn't want to bet $500 million on it not ending either.)