It presents a slight problem when the ones they're bringing in to deal with the shitty politicians are the people who paid them to be shitty in the first place.
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You mean like HR 1 For the People Act which passed the house twice but got filibustered and 30 years of campaign finance reform starting with a 1995 bill outlawing large donations (which was passed in 2002 but stricken down by the scotus 5:4 as the basis for Citizens United) that
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Republicans refuse to pass?
This is a partisan issue, bothsidesing this is pure ignorance. Get 60 Dem senators and watch it get fixed.
Doesn't matter. Everything is a conspiracy. Everything is the fault of some mysterious cabal.
Sir, excuse me, sir, pardon me you almost left behind this very important /s. These things are mandatory, wouldn't want to lose it.
Right right, that's all fine, but we need to elect minimum 60 Democrats. Full stop. We need to support electing 60 Democrats. We can all gather around and discuss how to sort out our Democrats after we remove the Republican Menace.
We had 60 for less than one month almost two decades ago. Since then we've elected less every year and blamed them more every year.
Oh yeah they should have asked the house nicely to vote to reform every system in the entire government in less than one month: you clearly do not want anything fixed, why are you being so disingenuous?
If me asking an honest question is a personal attack, then clearly the truth is your enemy.
Yeah. I described to you why things haven't been fixed and how we can fix them, and you responded that fixing it should have been done and that you don't trust the fixers so you won't let them fix it.
Just be honest with your beliefs, you don't have to sit here and bullshit about it. You don't want Democrats to win and you don't actually care about any of these problems. Why keep up the facade?
You kinda worked yourself into a dead end there. It's impossible for 60 democrats to win in the Senate with the way the DNC currently acts. The idea that people need to just believe in the DNC is never going to sway the average voter who's getting poorer by the day.
Remove it from... What, exactly? Even if they do win 60 seats, do you think Republicans will disappear from existence? They'll fuck around with their lame duck policies and get their ass handed to them by the GOP the next election. And setting all that aside: They could've just fucking gotten rid of the filibuster. The fact they haven't after what the GOP did during Obama's term should tell you all you need to know.
DNC don't decide if they win, we do. This is our job to do.
And it's never getting done, is the point here. This talk of jobs and duty will never get voters, no matter how much anyone wants it to.
That only went thru due to Enron crashing, and was a bipartisan effort from McCain and Feingold that was already in the works, they just didn't have the numbers till Enron's checks stopped...
And it directly led to PACs....
https://www.npr.org/2009/12/25/121872329/decade-brought-change-to-campaign-finance
And the wealthy immediately struck back.
That is widely recognized as when Republicans went off the deep end.
Don't assume everyone with a D by their name is on your side just because at the national level these days everyone with an R is on the other side.
If we need 60 votes to fix this, and we have 60+, expect just as many to act like Manchin as needed to bring that number down to 59.
We need to treat primaries serious so that if the day comes and we have 60, it gets done.
Because if we have 60 and it doesn't get done, it'll crash turnout.
Just like it did when we were told Biden and 50 senators could get shit done.
It wasn't exactly Bipartisan, it was every single Democrat and also 11 Republicans.
Obviously it wasn't an overnight switch, although my phrasing is more often used for a sudden change, it was a gradual one over decades so I should have used something else.
But Democrats being better than Republicans on average for decades doesn't mean every Democrat is good now. And every Republican being shit now doesn't mean that was always the case.
Dems could just... Choose to get rid of the filibuster.
There have been more Republicans than Democrats in senate since 2015 so removing the filibuster just gives Republicans everything they want with simple majority votes.
What? The Dems have the Senate right now no?
No, they don't. Dems have 47 seats currently, 4 Independents caucus with the DNC to select majority leader who calls votes.
In a month it changes over to GOP majority control because last election more people voted for Republicans.
If any legislation gets introduced that the GOP doesn't like, the GOP can filibuster it and it wont pass without 60 votes.
That includes budget bills that allow the entire US Military to operate and all of its members to get salaries and healthcare coverage, as well as general budgets for the rest of the federal government including congress, airports, and regulatory offices. Thats why shitty budgets with antitrans policy is getting passed.