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[–] Blaze@feddit.org 8 points 8 months ago (28 children)

A comment saying

Lemmy is federated, with communities scatered around different servers. If someone is gonna search for an alternative to reddit, I doubt they want to have to learn to navigate the fediverse.

Currently has 15 votes, while my comment suggesting people to try Lemmy as it's bigger is down to 2.

I'm not sure if Lemmy just has a very bad reputation over there in general, or if Discuit people are brigading the comments

[–] Zedstrian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 8 months ago (22 children)

Reddit could be manipulating votes that mention Lemmy, or otherwise shadowbanning mentions of it.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 12 points 8 months ago (21 children)

It could be that a first glance at lemmy is total shit. The "front page" is a hot mess, half in German with piles of pervy anime and Linux posts. It might be hard to believe, but not everyone likes that stuff. It takes heavy curating to get a moderately personally interesting feed and very few people are going to do that.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

But that's just it, "Lemmy's" front page isn't like that. There's no "Lemmy" front page. There's a thousand different ones.

Reddit is a website. Lemmy is a potentially unlimited, constantly changing, number of websites. They're not directly comparable.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

There’s a thousand different ones.

I just opened the following instances without being logged on

The same posts are there. You would only get a very different All feed on something like https://beehaw.org/, but they are quite unique in that regard.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So, what we mean by "Lemmy", then, is the circle of 5 - 10 largest, unfocused "general interest" Lemmy-based sites?

Because front page of startrek.website and ttrpg.network look quite a bit different. The All page of ttrpg.network is meaningfully, though not radically, different from the All pages on those sites. And you've already mentioned beehaw, which probably should be seen as a better model for how to operate a Lemmy-based website. leminal.space also has a fairly long block list, and its All page is also meaningfully different and less grating than seen on the Big 5.

It looks different depending on which site you're using. Unless you restrict yourself to the sites that do everything the same as one another.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

startrek.website

Looks similar to the other instances except if I missed something

ttrpg.network

They have indeed hidden the LW communities somehow, interesting. However, they only have 131 monthly active users.

Leminal.space

If that's just the theme, users of that instance using Voyager or any other alternative frontend wouldn't see any difference. Or am I missing something else?

So, what we mean by “Lemmy”, then, is the circle of 5 - 10 largest, unfocused “general interest” Lemmy-based sites?

I would rather say it's the other way around. On top of the 5 instances I picked, my statement is true for the All feed of most of the instances except the few ones you picked. So on top of the 5, there is at least

https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy provides a list you can filter by monthly active users.

Most of the instances offer the same All feed, and the ones who do not are the exception rather than the rule.

beehaw, which probably should be seen as a better model for how to operate a Lemmy-based website.

How is defederating the 2 largest instances, and not updating beyond 0.18.4 a better model?

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You get an ENORMOUSLY different feed checking out lemmy.ml though.

Also extremely relevant: the top instance hit by a Google search of "Lemmy" is that instance (even though DuckDuckGo pushes Lemmy.World higher).

Therefore, to a non-tech enthusiast, "Lemmy" = that instance. We can argue that it should not be, but it is what it is.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 2 points 8 months ago

As always, that's why people should always give one of the instances above when they mention Lemmy, to avoid people having to look up themselves

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