this post was submitted on 16 Dec 2024
21 points (100.0% liked)

Melbourne

2165 readers
39 users here now

This community is a place created for the people of Melbourne and Victoria. We are a positive, welcoming and inclusive community. We might not agree about everything, but we always strive to stay civil and respectful.

The focus of our discussions is based around things that affect Victoria, but we are also free to discuss our local perspective on wider issues. Or head to the regular Daily Random Discussion thread to talk about anything.

Full Community Guidelines

Ongoing discussions, FAQs & Resources (still under construction)

Adoption Certificate for Nellie, the Daily Thread numbat (with thanks to @Catfish)

Feedback & Suggestions

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Weather forecast today (Melbourne CBD, 3000): min - 18ยฐC, max - 24ยฐC. 25% chance of at least 4mm of rain


Whoever you are, you are loved โ™ฅ๏ธ

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[โ€“] tone212_@aussie.zone 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (7 children)

Gosh the internal review process for traffic fines is such a crock of shit.

I'm challenging a red light camera fine as I think it was incorrectly issued - my car crossed the stop line when the light was yellow, then it turned red and the cameras went off. You have to cross the stop line after the light has turned red to commit the offence (at least that's my reading of the law). Wrote a detailed review application with reasons, my recollection of the situation, referring to the photo evidence you can access etc, all I got back is "we are satisfied the offence was committed". That's it. Pay up or go to court.

I'm in this crap position of having only my recollection of the situation to rely on. I can't prove my car was in the intersection when the light was still yellow outside of pointing to the police photo which shows exactly this. But that wasn't good enough for the review, so it's probably not good enough for court either. It's a really expensive fine too. Feels like guilty until proven innocent rather than the other way around.

I've been much more careful since this fine, the light goes yellow I'm stopping. I don't trust those fixed cameras one bit.

[โ€“] CEOofmyhouse56@aussie.zone 4 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I always thought you should not enter an intersection on an amber light or you are gonna get done once it's red.

[โ€“] Baku@aussie.zone 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Iirc it specifically says something along the lines of "you must stop at a yellow light unless it is unsafe to do so". If the light goes red when you're 5 metres from the stop line and you're barreling down the road at 60, obviously you aren't going to stop

[โ€“] LovesTha@floss.social 3 points 7 months ago

@Baku @CEOofmyhouse56 You end up in an intersection while it is red more often when going slowly than when going the speed limit. When doing the limit you should see the orange long early enough to brake.

When doing 10 in an 80 zone you may be in the intersection the entire period of the orange.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (4 replies)