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[–] Umbrias@beehaw.org 7 points 8 months ago (21 children)

meltdowns do not resemble bombs at all. nor are they really possible either.

[–] i_love_FFT@jlai.lu 5 points 8 months ago (18 children)

On a world where everybody is effraid of nuclear power, station safety is really overboard, and nuclear is super safe.

If everyone accepted nuclear power the same way we accept cars, then you can be sure capitalism would cut corners on nuclear safety...

(Source: many of my clients are nuclear power plants people)

[–] Saleh@feddit.org -1 points 8 months ago (9 children)

Station safety is so overboard, that we only had like three meltdowns or so, and only some hundreds of thousands of people killed by premature cancer deaths as a result of them and some million or so permanently displaced.

But surely after the next event we will have learned and then it will be totally safe. Like they said after Three Miles Island. And like they said after Chernobyl. And like they said after Fukushima.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Chernobyl was a ridiculous level of negligence on the part of the technicians working at a plant with a very unsafe design.

Fukushima was a reasonably safe reactor design with terrible (and noted as such decades before the meltdown) site designs which could be described as "designed to fail".

You could argue that lessons have been learned from both of those, and Three Mile Island, and safer designs are the result. Or you could argue that Fukushima clearly shows that people shouldn't be involved in such high-risk projects because they will cut corners that will inevitably lead to disasters. If the second is your stance, take a look around. There are plenty of projects with similar risks in other fields all the time.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There are plenty of projects with similar risks in other fields all the time.

Then name three examples please, that have a Chernobyl level of risk.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago

Here's a list of industrial disasters. Take your pick of the ones that count as engineering or negligence (and Chernobyl was at least as much negligence as engineering) and tell me how many you get to.

Of course, we haven't discussed what kind of risk we're talking about. And is it better to have thousands of low-impact high-risk activities or one or two high-impact low-risk activities? Because, make no mistake, nuclear has cost less in human lives per unit of energy than any other power generation method we have. And hydroelectric has as profound an impact on the environment as nuclear fallout, it just tends to make some nice beaches and fishing so it isn't negative, right?

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