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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 172 points 8 months ago (6 children)

They aren't stupid. They are hypocritical liars who say whatever they need at the moment to justify their actions.

In 4 years, if we are allowed to have an election where a Democrat can win, they will immediately flip again.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 64 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hey, be fair now!

They are both hypocritical liars, and stupid.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Is it hypocritical though?

Dishonest, absolutely. But in a certain sense what they're doing is more true to their values. They believe they are in a war over the future course of their nation. They're not interested in being nice, and they're not willing to sacrifice the things they care about for some pretence of honesty and decency.

There's a consistency to their ideals there that liberals often lack. McConnell blocked Obama's supreme court picks because he could, and because it would help advance his agenda. Obama meanwhile had many options for simply steamrollering over the senate, but refused to explore any of them because it was more important to respect the process than it was to achieve results. Biden got huge swathes of his agenda blocked by Trump's supreme court picks, but never contemplated packing the court to solve this problem, because it was more important to respect the process. You can argue that they were protecting these institutions, but when the institutions have already been so utterly perverted what value is there in protecting them? The senate and the supreme court are now less trusted than ever, all thanks to Obama and Biden "protecting" them while Republicans corrupted them.

This is devious, underhanded, scummy, and selfish. But it's true to their ideals. They believe in the world they want, and they'll do whatever it takes to get it. The left could learn from that.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 8 months ago

Never forget that McConnell told the Democrats that if they broke tradition and blocked Bork's nomination, it would set a dangerous precedent. And then he cheerfully did it to Merrick Garland years later.

[–] M137@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They are definitely stupid, how could you think they aren't?

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Elon Musk and his cronies aren't geniuses but they aren't stupid.

[–] schema@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

Musk is definitely an idiot when it comes to a lot of technical knowledge about the fields he pretends to be knowledgable in (see that twitter interview where he suggested to "rewrite the code"). But he is not stupid when it comes to throwing around money to manipulate people, just plain evil.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

I mean, that's what I call stupid.

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

77,237,942 people are hypocritical liars who say whatever they need at the moment to justify their actions?

77,237,942 know they are indirectly hurting other people, but lie to justify their actions?

77,237,942 dont feel empathy from the suffering of others that they know arent inherently evil?

77,237,942 are willing to lie to children into believing something that hurts them?

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 7 points 8 months ago

As someone born and raised in the U.S., that number honestly seems too low. Yes, there are easily that many irredeemable fascists in America.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

You don't know millions of people so the absolute numbers look high. But if you write the percentage instead, you might remember people you've met and agree.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 8 months ago

if we are allowed to have an election where a Democrat can win

Allowed by the DNC?