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Maybe I’m just face-blind or being dense but the photos from the scene of the crime look like a different dude than the ginning hostel check in guy. The jackets and backpacks are different. Although people can have multiple jackets and backpacks. We don’t see much of the shooters face but the eyebrows look different. Although, people can pluck/shave eyebrows. I guess the happy hostel guy would have come forward and been like “WTF?” and “I have an alibi” if it wasn’t him?

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[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 481 points 8 months ago (13 children)

I guess the happy hostel guy would have come forward and been like “WTF?” and “I have an alibi” if it wasn’t him?

I sure as fuck wouldn't. I know enough not to come anywhere near the police if they're scrutinizing me for any reason, even if I know 100% I'm innocent and I can prove it. You absolutely cannot trust them not to just arrest you and railroad you into a bullshit conviction anyway, or plant some evidence, or decide "he had a knife" and just outright kill you. You know how they say "anything you say can be used against you?" That's because they absolutely won't use it to help you, even if you're not guilty of anything.

I am positive city hall is breathing down the NYPD's neck real hard right now. The entire department has got a lot of egg on its face for not being able to stop this guy, not being able to positively identify this guy, hell, not even know with any certainty where he went afterwards. They are under immense pressure to hang somebody -- anybody -- over this because they're looking even more like chumps than usual.

So no, a wise man would not expose himself to the cops in any way whatsoever.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 164 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The cops need to present a suspect so they can say they did their job. Whether it's the right suspect is another matter.

[–] CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world 69 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Yep, if something like this can happen, it might not be the best idea to go to the police:

Man pressured to confess he killed his dad. His dad was alive and well [3:40]

[–] Jessica@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Fuck I had to stop watching after the bit with his dog. That's heartbreaking

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

Guess who’s going to pay that 900,000. YOU.

[–] TheFunkyMonk@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Everything went as expected. The officers were promoted.

[–] UnityDevice@startrek.website 3 points 8 months ago

We did it, ~~reddit~~ NYPD!

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 92 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

And if the cops do ask and want to pursue questioning you .... you don't talk to the cops in this situation and just ask for a lawyer ... they ask what your name is - lawyer ... what is your date of birth - lawyer ... where are you from? lawyer ... lawyer, lawyer, lawyer

Never talk to the cops, especially when the cops are desperately looking for a suspect.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 60 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)
[–] indepndnt@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It is ALWAYS "shut the fuck up" Friday.

[–] stetech@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Was about to send that first link. Glad someone beat me to it.

[–] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works 48 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Fair point. I suspect that the NYPD doesn’t really want to bring him in alive.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 51 points 8 months ago (1 children)

A dead suspect checks the boxes. Can't dispute facts with evidence. Allows the media to say they got him. Gives them an easy victory.

[–] troybot@midwest.social 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The CEOs get a false sense of security and are lured out of hiding. Then the real killer guns down another one. Rinse and repeat.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

C'mon man! You should have ended with "Another one bites the dust".

Then we could all have it playing in our head!

[–] Aolley@lemmy.world 38 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Massad Ayoub is the man when it comes to firearms and law. I know of no one more expert.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 8 months ago

This is sound advice. There are too many bad actors among cops to trust them to be impartial or fair.

[–] NutinButNet@hilariouschaos.com 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You are correct. I’ve been watching a lot of true crime on YouTube lately and regardless whether someone is guilty or innocent, it seems it is ALWAYS in your best interest to get lawyered up and keep quiet if the cops are interrogating you.

I have mixed feelings about the guilty assholes, because it’s frustrating seeing someone give up their rights and be so open about their crimes but on the other hand, I’m glad they’re so dumb so they can be removed from society and punished.

But it is nothing but frustration seeing innocent people go through that out of genuine sincerity. “I have nothing to hide, so I’ll be open with the cops.” Fucking do not. No matter how low the statistic actually is, there is too much at stake to risk encountering someone who twists your words and uses it against you to frame you so they can close a case.

Lawyer up and shut up. Don’t talk to cops as much as you can help it. Especially don’t volunteer to have your name cleared.

[–] DogWater@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Making a murderer is all you have to see to know this is the truth. I feel so bad for that family.

[–] Vacationlandgirl@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Yes! A real eye opener for me!

[–] piecat@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

I bet they stop releasing info because of the public reaction. At this poiny, they want us to forget and not have copycats. They're scared.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Especially just murdering you. Lot harder to get a corpse to testify that they didn't do it. Makes it a LOT easier to say "well, they did it, but they're dead now, case closed."

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Just imagine this is green text.

Nab the wrong guy

Shoot him in the back 53 times while screaming "stop resisting!"

Investigate ourselves, find no wrongdoing

"Case closed, boys!"

...

Police chief gets got by The Adjuster the next day...

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca -5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Wow. Dood. Your reality sounds stressful.

Its like an episode of Law and Order but in real life!