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[–] Unknown1234_5@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (10 children)
  1. Why does everyone have beef with lemmy.ml
  2. Why don't you just block the instance

Edit: thank you for real responses, got so used to be people getting pissed for no reason on social media that I was genuinely surprised to check Lemmy and see a bunch of genuine answers with no butthurt to be seen

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 74 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Why does everyone have beef with lemmy.ml

The admins and mods cultivate a community of genocide denial and authoritarian apologism, which many users on the instance then buy into.

Why don’t you just block the instance

Instance blocking only blocks communities, not users, who still show up whenever there's a Chinese genocide to deny or a Russian atrocity to "WHATABOUT", or a non-Western aligned dictator to "BOTHSIDES".

My current favorite is Taliban-simping.

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)

When I accidentally blocked an instance, any comment from a user on that instance would be replaced by a message like "you have blocked this instance and so will not see this comment." I don't know if that's a feature of my client, Connect, or of lemmy itself.

[–] nichtburningturtle@feddit.org 13 points 8 months ago

Should be your client.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Damn I’m jealous of your client! That’s a new feature to me!

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Enjoy! At least if you're on Android. I don't know if an iOS version exists.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 9 points 8 months ago

You are forgetting the strong hatred for France.

[–] jkozaka@lemm.ee 24 points 8 months ago (3 children)

The ml in lemmy ml means marxism-leninism, it's maintained by the lemmy devs so it has lots of "normal" users too. Some people associate lemmy.ml with "tankie" viewpoints.

[–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Lemmy devs are tankies, especially the main maintainer

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

At least they’re more level headed than Nutomic is.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Nutonic is literally a transphobe who is on record as saying that trans rights are western degeneracy

[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com -1 points 8 months ago

I wonder what Blahaj thinks of him

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 8 months ago

I wouldn't have a problem with if it wasn't for the mods

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago

The ml stands for Mali, which is the country the instance domain is registered to. The Marxist-Leninist connection is a happy coincidence for them.

[–] Gerudo@lemm.ee 18 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I choose not to block the instance because there is a very small group on there that have non-political discussions that I enjoy, same with hexbear.

I also don't like creating an echo chamber where all I hear is what I want to hear. Hearing from the other side, as disgusting as their viewpoints can be, at least let's me know how they think.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't agree with their tankie views, but it does force me to see other views. However I usually just eyeroll and move on.

If I see racism or hate though that's an immediate block.

[–] Gerudo@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

Agreed, if it's targeted like that, you get a block.

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

the other side

Kremlin propaganda isn't the other side

[–] Gerudo@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yet propaganda is what has the US where we are today. If you understand the propaganda, you can help push back.

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee -2 points 8 months ago

Yes, like pushing back against lemmy.ml

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Why does everyone have beef with lemmy.ml

Extending an invitation to peruse !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works for some context of mod behavior

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 8 months ago

The mods of that community are communists. They seem to mod in good faith but keep that in mind.

[–] KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago (3 children)
  1. Lots of toxicity and bad takes.
  2. It isn't literally the entire instance.
[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

It isn't literally the entire instance.

Maybe not, but when the admins and mods are part of the problem, it becomes pervasive.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -1 points 8 months ago

In my experience it is pretty much the entire instance. All the sane people moved to other places.

[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com -5 points 8 months ago

Yeah, Hexbear is the worst. I would say exploding heads, but they're gone now.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 14 points 8 months ago

Their mods behave like Russian commissars. Their users go along with it.

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

In my experience, the mods on lemmy.ml are particularly biased. Like it's okay to joke about American school shootings but not about abortions biased. But after a while I just stopped posting there. (I barely post to lemmy at all now, but that's another story.)

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure making jokes about shootings is worse that jokes about abortions.

Honestly they are both inappropriate

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Reasonable people can disagree about the rules, the point is the mods are inconsistent.

(But seriously, do you really want to say one is worse than the other?)

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 5 points 8 months ago

fedia.io doesn't support blocking, unfortunately 😭

[–] JaymesRS@literature.cafe 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Your comment has been removed for including carnist hate words. We don’t use words that glorify murder like the “b” word.

[–] Unknown1234_5@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] butwhyishischinabook@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

They're making a shitty "HAHA VEGANS DUMB" joke like it's 2010.

[–] JaymesRS@literature.cafe 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Nah, one of my kids are vegetarian and I cook to support them. I have no issues with vegans. I see how it came across that way though.

I suspect you must have missed the .ml vegan community drama a couple months ago. Take every bad stereotype about vegans and ramp it to 11. Everything was in bad faith. It bled into a couple different communities.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Ah makes sense, gotta put the /s when making references like that

[–] JaymesRS@literature.cafe 1 points 8 months ago

That would have been better in hindsight.

[–] butwhyishischinabook@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Ohhhhh I actually did miss that completely, my bad.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Tbf, guess what the comms I got banned from are, and guess why? Vegan subs, "carnist propaganda."

I'm just saying, don't make a post bemoaning "why do people hate vegans" and then ban the guy saying "because they often behave like evangelical christians." I got kicked out of church for much the same reason, ironically.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 1 points 8 months ago

Lemmy has a very different community than Reddit - here, people are often outright kind.

In part that's a large reason for the beef with Lemmy.ml, e.g. recently a mod there removed comments for a user over a misunderstanding in a game, and in the process said that they (the MOD!) wanted to shoot them (the OP), doubling down and even tripping down to say "I hope you die soon". (Described in more detail here.)

It is ironic that one of the very first Lemmy instances, and also being the one whose admins are also the developers of the Lemmy sourcecode, is so much less like the rest of the people on Lemmy, and more like Reddit. But it is what it is.