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[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago (11 children)

Lady in red is presenting an extremely common series of steps that companies take for the owner/investor self interest in profit.

How is it critiquing an irrational position?

[–] WatDabney@fedia.io -2 points 8 months ago (10 children)

That series of steps, common or not, is bludgeoningly irrational, and for multiple reasons.

In fact, the introductory part of the comic, showing her rejecting the entirely rational option of working half as long to produce the same amount clearly communicates the point that it's irrational, as does the last frame, illustrating the consequences of her self-evidently irrational choice.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (5 children)

It is rational self interest, not rational group interest. Hence why she doesn't act in a way that would benefit others, because they can now do twice the output in the same amount of time because of the machine!

'Rational self interest' is just being selfish.

[–] WatDabney@fedia.io 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Rational group interest IS rational self-interest.

As social animals living in communities and as part of any number of groups, we must, if we're rational, be mindful of the well-being of groups, because our own well-being depends on it.

'Rational self interest' is just being selfish.

No it in fact is not. Selfishness causes any number of negative consequences - suffering, hostility, crime, conflict, rebellion, war, death... So it's bludgeoningly obviously irrational, and therefore cannot be rational self interest.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 2 points 8 months ago

No it in fact is not. Selfishness causes any number of negative consequences - suffering, hostility, crime, conflict, rebellion, war, death… So it’s bludgeoningly obviously irrational, and therefore cannot be rational self interest.

for 99% of people yes. but if you happen to be at the very top of the ladder and if things are broken enough you can be self interested into destroying the world. Fact is the guillotines aren't being rolled out. The protests that happen are pretty consistently swatted with barely a weeks hindrance to the years between them. We all suffer the consiquences of the olligarchy, the ones making the laws and decisions are largely above those hardships.

[–] ellen_musk_0x@lemm.ee -1 points 8 months ago

Self is group, group is self.

Dog is cat

Water is dry

Up is down

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