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Women and LGBTQ+ people take up guns after Trump’s win: ‘We need to protect ourselves’ (www.theguardian.com)
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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry, you're calling what is happening in Syria a good example? Do you know how many people died? Also in the Spanish Civil War?

It's great how people here are willing to sacrifice so many innocent lives on their behalf.

[–] CafeFrog@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Both conflicts are horrific, but what was their alternative? We saw what happened in Germany when few fought back, and that was just as horrific an outcome, if not more so (6 million Jews killed vs 300 thousand on the left side in the Spanish civil war, though estimates vary).

Tens of thousands died under Mussolini in labor camps and via execution, and the same would've happened under Franco in Spain (and eventually did, post civil war)

To be clear, I'm not advocating that any country rush to armed conflict, but history seems to indicate that it's better to be capable of defending yourself vs. not having the option at all.

If you have examples of pacifism being effective against fascism, I'm quite open to having my mind changed. In fact, I would prefer if that were the more effective option, if evidence supports it.