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This whole "kill the rich" thing is counterproductive and needs to stop. Advocating for murder has never been cool.
People are killed daily not so indirectly by billionaires. Overpriced medicine, Military industry, Unhealthy products, Monopolization of water and other resources and land, poisoning ground water with industrial waste, unsafe work conditions, the list is endless.
There is almost no billionaire that isnt responsible for someones death and in a moral world they would be in prison. So morals are already completely out of the window.
Not every billionaire built their life doing something unethical. Killing them wouldn't make you any better. People also fuel monopolies out of convenience even if they have a choice to act ethical. We should strive for legislative change. The billionaire might be the owner of parts of a company, but we as a society use the services for our daily lives. What economic system that actually works also supports free ideas, innovation and the willingness to perform other than something based on capitalism (Communism never worked and doesn't reward it properly). Treating symptoms won't treat the cause. We need legislative change.
If you were a slave and I was your master, would killing me be murder?
...yes? But, as all people and legal systems agree, there are times when murder is legal and endorsed.
Are you a literal slave? If you play with meaning, you can turn everyone into a slave and kill everyone. Is that what you want?
Are you a vegetarian? Just curious.
vegan, actually.
There ya go. Carry on then.
I respect life? sorry?
They intended to "gotcha" but you dodged.
It would have been a self-gotcha. But since they're consistent - as you were.
I know what you were trying to do, and I understand your sentiment. However, ultimately, personal consistency doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things, right? If I smoke cigarettes, I can still tell people not to smoke, right? My smoking doesn't undermine the science or the message. However, my concern is that this "KILL THE RICH" platitude has been so adopted by the online left that it's making us look, as a whole, like psychopaths; and, considering that, it's now beyond "individual consistency" and more in the territory of "stupid zeitgeist" that does more harm than good. Honestly, what I see right now is a bunch of LARPers that make the left look crazy, and I feel like, ultimately, that's harmful. The fact that I get so many downvotes is just kinda a reinforcement of this impression, as well. It's a sad time to be alive when widespread murder is the political chant, in any day/age... lest we become the monster, and all that. That's all.
You can tell people not to smoke but you'd be a hypocrite then. If a hypocrite is telling you not to do something they're doing - that's worthless.
You're saying: Take no violent action against those destroying the planet because we should respect all life. And you're vegan. So that consistency bolsters your message, downvoted though it may be.
"You can tell people not to smoke but you’d be a hypocrite then. If a hypocrite is telling you not to do something they’re doing - that’s worthless."
I couldn't disagree with the "worthless" thing more, even if I tried.
Yes, I would be a hypocrite, but calling someone a "hypocrite" is merely a personal attack on their character. Someone's character, ultimately, does not change the fact of the matter, which is that, in this case, smoking is harmful and you shouldn't smoke if you want to be in good health. The person telling you this being a hypocrite has no bearing on that whatsoever—it's intellectually fallacious to even suggest such a thing.
Is it.
I prefer "eat the rich" as a metaphor for seizing their assets, not a literal endorsement of cannibalism. I'm actually surprised how many people literally mean "kill the rich". Are you guys actual sociopaths?
I’m actually surprised (not really) how many people can come this close to getting it, but still be so desperate to follow the rules they've set (E: where they can directly and indirectly kill millions a year for profit with impunity, but we're not allowed to even say nasty things about them, never mind plan to fight back against them, without being considered dangerous terrorists), that you manage to convince yourself billionaires will just freely and willingly give over those assets and all of the power that comes with them one day once we've asked nicely enough.. 🙄
I don't think asset seizure going to be easy, but it's going to be significantly more effective and safer for everyone than staging a new French Revolution.
If you're truly advocating for murder on the internet (are you?), I don't think there's any point in trying to change your mind. I'm not "this close" to getting it — I already got it and rejected it.
OK why don't you go kill some billionaires then, instead of just fantasizing about it on the internet? Good luck and godspeed.
Nah, some of us just see that they buy the elections so that we can't vote for change. And they buy the judges so we can't sue for change. And they buy the media so we can't speak for change. So now we're exploring the extremely distasteful option because all other avenues for change have been blocked
Lots of folks here are 100% for violence against anyone they disagree with.
Site wide the general tone is "if they don't pass the test, kill em"
No contest on the examples you provided. They are horrible.
God damn Lemmy
Edit literally just now a thread about Tesla's being hard for emergency services to get into, people are replying that the occupants should be left to die.
Yeah, I've been finding myself arguing with zealots more and more on Lemmy. This is really not a healthy community. I hope it's some form of keyboard warrior syndrome and not the way these people behave in the real world.
almost tempted to make an alt account and then post a thread in the politics community titled something like, "planning to k*ll B!ll g@tes; any help would be appreciated" (i would work on the title to make it believable, of course). but you know what would happen; i would get banned. because this whole "k!ll the rich" thing is performative, i.e. misguided virtue signalling. and it's all very very immature.
I'll take some of your money then, I'm sure you won't mind considering how well-off you are (and how blind you are to those of us less fortunate). Oh, you don't want me to do that? If only there was some system, some measure of equality, some safety from poverty, a safety net for those that got dealt a shit hand and are juuuuust treading water... while fuckwads buy their second Bugatti this month.
So for now, off with their heads. A few rolling away and they will come up with something real quick.
Nah man. I know cool.