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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 119 points 11 months ago (14 children)

Any western government or leader surprised that Ukraine is now talking about developing their own nuclear weapons program needs to understand that they wouldn’t even be considering that if we had just fucking held up our end of the deal.

With the Budapest Memorandum, they surrendered their (former Soviet) nukes in exchange for security guarantees. The guarantees ended up being worth less than the paper they were written on. Ergo, Ukraine, seeking security guarantees on its own terms, feels compelled to re-develop nuclear weapons technology, because that’s a guarantee nobody’s going to be able to forcibly take from you once you have it.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 25 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Watch germany pull support if ukraine tried nukes while still selling weapons to israel for genocide and who also has nukes...

We living through a timeline where the entire world order sold to us is falling a part because our own countries wont comply with their own rules 🤡

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The New World Order is quickly becoming the Old World Order

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah, Hogan's a wrinkly mess, Nash has gone from brown hair, to grey hair to white hair. Hall is dead.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Germany, Britain and the US supporting a White Colonist State mass murdering the locals whose land they've been stealing and who they claim are violent and savage.

We're basically back in the late 1800s.

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