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[–] paf0@lemmy.world 121 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Harris could beat him on Fox, OAN, NewsMax or RT. She could do it anywhere and he knows it. He is a coward. If he had any backbone he would suggest another network.

[–] BlueLineBae@midwest.social 91 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Could she beat him in a box? Would she beat him with a fox? Could she beat him here or there? She would beat him anywhere!

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago

She could beat him the air,
She could beat him just on hair!
She could beat him day and night,
It wouldn’t even be a fight!

She’ll also catch him on the lam,
And we’ll eat green eggs and ham!

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml -5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Not necessarily, if instead of taking his talking points from freaks like Laura Loomer, he focused on associating Kamala with the unpopular policies of the democratic party (especially the ones Trump agrees with), he could hurt her numbers.

For each republican policy the democrats adopted chasing "moderate republicans", Trump can go "Kamala agrees shutting down the border and deporting all the brown people is a good thing. Who do you trust more to do it, America?", apply that logic to dems' "tough on crime" rhetoric, their foreign policy, their trade war with China, etc.

[–] paf0@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

That might work for any other Republican but this is Trump. He's the guy who tried to overturn the election, tried to force our allies to create scandals in exchange for aid, took care of Putin first during covid and told countless other lies. Any other Republican might be able to twist their record to win, but not him, his record it too extensive and insane.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Trump can go "Kamala agrees shutting down the border and deporting all the brown people is a good thing. Who do you trust more to do it, America?",

Kamala: "Trump told his own people to kill this bill, why would you trust him to actually go through with what he says?"

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Most Americans trust the republicans to harm immigrants more than they do the democrats.

Democrats cannot outflank the republicans from the right.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Democrats cannot outflank the republicans from the right.

Who says they need to outflank from the right? Literally all she has to say is that she'll do the thing the republicans wanted and tanked on Donnie dipshits orders. That's going too far as is for most left people on here, but it seems to be what the base wants, and all you really have to do is point out any of the myriad of times they've said something and done fuck all or intentionally killed it because it had democrats support.

Making the voters think the right is untrustworthy (because they are) has much more impact than trying to outflank.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Who says they need to outflank from the right?

That's what the democrats are trying to do when they agree that classical republican policies are actually good and we need to do them.

it seems to be what the base wants

The people who were pro-immigration in every election until like 2022, but now support mass deportation want whatever the democrats tell them they want.

For some reason, the democrats have been telling them they want republican policies.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

If meeting the republicans in the middle counts as trying to outflank them from the right, I don't think you and I can have a productive conversation. This is disagreement on the meaning of basic terms and I'm not willing to try to hash out what words mean today.

Good day.