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[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 66 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I blocked my two TVs from phoning home via my pihole. They are the two noisiest devices on my network, by leaps and bounds.

On a day of heavy usage, my phone and desktop may get ~2000 blocked requests combined. That’s high, but not unheard of. It just means I did a lot of browsing, with a lot of blocked ad requests. My TVs average somewhere around 7500 blocked requests per day, on days that I haven’t even turned them on. That’s an attempt to phone home every ~12 seconds. And it is much worse on days that I actually use them.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

To be clear though, that's largely because it is just repeating the same request over and over as it times out and retries. They're a lot less noisy when they actually connect successfully, though it is still undesirable for them to do so.

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

Is it encrypted?

[–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I got a 42" 4k computer monitor instead

[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

How many times the cost of a comparably-sized Trojan TV did that run you?

[–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

1.2x

I also use it as a computer monitor though.

[–] cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Maybe i'm stupid, but why would a TV even do that? All it's know is what you're watching today, right? How is that information useful? If you're living with other people, the TV couldn't even know who's watching, that would make the data useless.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago

Data mining. They know what you watch, when you don't and any other habits you have.

If you have a microphone on your remote or tv, then they also send that data over.

[–] ArcticPrincess@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Knowing the distribution of what entire households watch is very useful. It's not about spying on you personally.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 11 points 2 years ago

And what other devices are on the network, and what they're chattering about

[–] reggu@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

..seems rather personal to me.

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

It is also about spying on you personally, to build targeted advertising profiles.

[–] MajorasMaskForever@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Jesus dude, what brand TV do you have?

My LG issues a few hundred blocked requests throughout the day with heavy usage. I've never seen it wake up and phone home (my Nintendo Switch does it every hour for some stupid reason)

One is a Samsung, and the other is a Roku. The Roku is a little bit noisier, but not by much.