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It was really annoying back when I was a rightist but it's even more frustrating now that I am a Marxist-Leninist that so-called "leftists" denounce pretty much every single successful socialist experience in history.

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[–] ComradeGiraffe@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)

I see that Russia isn't on your list, is it a socialist state or something else?

[–] fire86743@lemmygrad.ml 34 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Depends on what you mean by Russia. If you mean the Soviet Union, then yes, they were most definitely socialist, even though revisionists would later take over and steer it towards the path of complete capitalist restoration.

If you mean modern Russia, then no, they are not socialist, they are capitalist. They have more state-owned industries than normal capitalist societies and oppose the West, but that's like saying Iran is socialist because the exact same description I just mentioned fits them as well. Just because the Russian government sometimes says good things about the Soviet Union doesn't make them socialist or wannabe socialist either, they are just trying to win over the many Russians who are nostalgic for the Soviet era. The Russian government is very much anti-socialist.

[–] ComradeGiraffe@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Thank you for the explanation. I've seen a lot of support for Russia, so I thought you guys thought they were socialists. I'm still learning about all this, I'm quite new to being on the left.

[–] StalinIsMaiWaifu@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 years ago

The reason for that is many of us feel the primary roadblock to socialism is American Hegemony so states which actively resist America receive critical support. Other common examples are Al-Assad's Syria and Ghadaffi's Libya.

Due to the tendency of the circlejerk the critical part tends to be silent, also as no other state has the same global influence as America, their flaws frankly matter less.

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