All candidates propped up by Republicans to siphon votes from Harris. We have a shitty system, but the way it works is Harris or Trump or abstain because you don't care.

I don't have a problem with people voting for a third party as long as they admit they are good with Trump winning. It's great to see socialists and greens showing up at the polls and voting for progressive candidates at every level. I just can't stand the naivety of a third-party voter thinking they are going to teach Harris a thing or two.

This isn't Bush v Gore where it was two centrist oligarchs battling it out to be more pro-business. The is President Donald J Trump Part II, this time with more fascism and executive immunity. If you lived through the first term and think, "yeah, I don't care if that guy comes back," then I don't know how to even relate as a human. Harris ain't perfect, but she must win.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml -5 points 11 months ago (14 children)

All candidates propped up by Republicans to siphon votes from Harris. We have a shitty system, but the way it works is Harris or Trump or abstain because you don't care.

Do you legitimately believe Claudia De La Crúz is propped up by Republicans? The Reps and Dems collaborated on kicking them off the ballot in some states.

I don't have a problem with people voting for a third party as long as they admit they are good with Trump winning. It's great to see socialists and greens showing up at the polls and voting for progressive candidates at every level. I just can't stand the naivety of a third-party voter thinking they are going to teach Harris a thing or two.

The Dems will only ever move to regain votes they've lost, otherwise they go to the right like their donors want.

This isn't Bush v Gore where it was two centrist oligarchs battling it out to be more pro-business. The is President Donald J Trump Part II, this time with more fascism and executive immunity. If you lived through the first term and think, "yeah, I don't care if that guy comes back," then I don't know how to even relate as a human. Harris ain't perfect, but she must win.

Harris and Trump are nearly identical on foreign policy, which includes genocide, and neither are good for America. If you can't relate to me, that's fine, genocide is a firm red line for me so I will listen to Muslim Americans and Palestinians, who are recommending candidates like Stein and Claudia De La Crúz.

[–] Mbourgon@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

“nearly identical on foreign policy”

Um, not even close. Unfortunately they range from “fine with it” to “actively support genocide” with Israel, but they’re not even in the same realm. See Ukraine and NATO for 2 counterexamples, and authoritarians have entered the chat.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml -5 points 11 months ago

Unfortunately they range from “fine with it” to “actively support genocide” with Israel

Both actively support genocide, that's identical.

See Ukraine and NATO for 2 counterexamples

Trump won't keep his promise to pull out of NATO, but if he did, he would be the best US president in history for the Global South.

Either way though, Trump can't keep his promises, US foreign policy is bipartisan because Imperialism is where the US makes the vast majority of its profits.

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