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[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

What is going on here? The laws came into place in September 2021, but mortality was already climbing from 2019-2021. What was going on those years to cause this? Then a sharp decline in mortality between 2021 and 2022 for two of the three groups.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lockdown - domestic violence peaked during those years as well. Abusive men often use birth/pregnancy to abuse their partners, because they feel like their partner is obligated to be with them now that they share a child. There can also be some jealousy issues from the man towards the baby or the wife, since they get special treatment especially during pregnancy and right after.

So you'll see more stuff like deliberate poisoning (including sneakily feeding foods unsafe for pregnant women), beatings, rape. They will also delay or deny medical treatment.

Oh actually, that's probably a big reason too - people stopped going to the doctor during those years because we were told not to. It was too busy and overwhelmed. We were told you'd get covid and miscarry if you went in to the doctor also. Prenatal care is HUGE for preventing deaths during birth. My guess is a combo of factors.

[–] DokPsy 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Defunding of women's health programs such as planned parenthood started long before the actual ban

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But then overall mortality went down in 2022 compared to 2021?

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Covid was going down by then I think.

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The comment I replied to said the spike was due to woman's programs being defunded. I don't know if it was that, or covid, or something else. Right now it appears everyone is speculating the reason. Some detail, specifically some from the article would have been helpful. In its face, the article is blaming a 2021 law for a rise in mortality between 2019-2022, despite the mortality rate declining overall after the law went into effect. I don't think that's the whole story, but the article seems to gloss over it.

[–] punkaccountant@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

According to the cdc website pretty much everywhere in the u.s. went up during 2020-2021 and things started coming down 2022-2023. In fact it looks like the average across the u.s. was pretty much back to “normal” by 2023. But what we see here is that while things declined again for TX in 2022, they still remain quite elevated above 2019 while the u.s. average went back to pre-pandemic average, which would tell me that something else is going on in TX unrelated to the pandemic.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

For a more interesting question, why did it go down for everyone except white women, and increased for white women? That's weird enough that it feels like there's a reason, but I have no clue what it might be.

[–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This graph is useless without a source. We don't know how the data was collected or how many data points are included (or discarded). This is probably just lying with statistics 101.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Lie_with_Statistics

[–] tee9000@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh I didn't realize it was from the article because there is no source!

[–] tee9000@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I mean most people are guilty of trying to discuss a topic based on the post title. But if you want to throw shade you should check your work.