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US: Muslim groups urge voters to back Jill Stein, Cornel West or other pro-Palestine candidates
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Problem: She's not advocating for continued genocide:
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/harris-face-black-journalists-questions-philadelphia-2024-09-17/
Speaking in Philadelphia to the National Association of Black Journalists, she called for a ceasefire between Israel and Palestinian Hamas militants, a two-state solution and Middle East stability in a way that does not empower Iran.
Repeatedly:
https://www.npr.org/2024/08/23/g-s1-19232/kamala-harris-israel-gaza-dnc
She and President Biden are still pushing for a cease-fire deal that sees the hostages released, the fighting in Gaza to end and so "Palestinian people can realize their right to dignity, security, freedom and self determination."
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn0lx2xgn55o
Ms Harris said "far too many" civilians had been killed "yet again"and reiterated calls for a hostage deal and a ceasefire, echoing comments made by the White House.
None of that is "pro-genocide".
Starts off saying Trump is worse and then turns to straight up lying and misinformation. Classic.
Come on, say Russian bot, I'm almost there!
They are equally pathetic statements. You can't reconcile the idea of someone having a position to your left, so they must secretly be to your right!
You'll notice I also said you're just coping. I agree with Linkerbaan's actual opinion and you can stick to your conspiracy theories. It's not like they're going to dox themselves to prove such a ridiculously frivolous accusation wrong.
You have no evidence! The one time you purported to present evidence, it was just someone denying and mocking you evidence-less claims! Your political "advocacy" is a joke if you have no way to interface with contrary opinions except to pigeonhole them into one specific opinion, even if it requires harebrained conspiracy theories!
You do more to discredit the democrats than Linkerbaan does. Are you a Republican asset?
He wasn't saying "Yes, that is correct and you can cope about it," he was saying "You're making things up to cope about what I'm saying". Imagining in your pathetic fantasy that he was a Republican Operative and you're the Ace Detective Sherlock who discovered this, why the fuck would he blow his own cover on the same forum he was agitating on and then continue agitating on the same platform under his blown cover? You are genuinely delusional and I don't want to be ableist, so we should probably stop talking because only a doctor is qualified to engage with you on these grandiose flights of fancy where you are engaging in internet forum spy battles against the GOP.
I don't think you understand; I'm not joking. If you legitimately see such ridiculous conspiracies that easily and then fervently hold on to them, accusing the people who disagree with you of being in on it, you should see a psychiatrist (or tell the current one about this dynamic). I don't know what it is or what more you should do about it, that's for a professional to figure out. Obviously I don't think you'll listen to me on that, I'm just trying to convey my earnestness.
I feel more comfortable making fun of people who -- while sometimes probably mentally ill the same degree that I am -- are able to talk about a common reality. Making fun of foolishness is enjoyable, making fun of illness is cruel.
This part I'll touch on because it's a common misconception among liberals like yourself, especially on .world. We communists don't spend an especially large portion of our time criticizing Trump because what is wrong with Trump is obvious, not because we secretly like him. We do still criticize him though and have threads on a daily basis (headlines allowing) talking about what a dumb chauvinist he is. This account is an alt for my Hexbear account, so I can mainly speak to that one. If you go to that website and search for threads on Trump, you'll find plenty and they generally are filled with people making some combination of serious criticisms along with more frivolous ones about how the dumb shit he says is less funny than it used to be (like remember when he quoted "Two Corinthians" in front of some Christian university to try to pander to evangelicals? I was laughing for a week).
But aside from when some new story is especially heinous (like immigrants "eating pets") and where it's entertaining, Communists tend to find it more important to criticize Democrats not because they are worse but because they require more calling out. It's like what Malcolm X said about the Wolf and the Fox, where the Wolf bares its teeth at you and you know immediately what your relationship to it is, but the Fox shows its teeth as a smile, as though it is trying to befriend you. Most people understand the Wolf (though some unfortunately still support it), many people misunderstand the Fox.
That wasn't "now let me criticize Trump. Whoops! Kamala-posting!" That was me answering why communists are so keen to criticize democrats, while also explaining that they do criticize Republicans. That entails covering both subjects, so you're just attacking me for answering a question as though it was a completely different prompt.
God forbid I be dismissive to someone going on rants about how his enemies are secret agents. You literally just don't understand how people communicate and turned it into a conspiracy theory.
You think Republicans bother with a few thousand nobodies on a niche platform? That's self-important. That's really self-important.
You're a fucking idiot with no ability to understand other people's interiorities. No communist believes this.
Only some useful idiot neoliberals do, and even among them it is rare.
Edit: I disagree with the removal, but I won't lose sleep over it. You were, it must be stressed, accusing someone of being a secret Republic operator with your "evidence" being them saying "cope" to you once.
If you can find it in your messages, then you can provide us with a link, no? It may not work, but I can try some stuff to see if I can get it to, it should still be there, otherwise it eouldsay "removed by X"
Cope
He does recycle actual Russian propaganda though. If you call him out on it, he deletes it and pretends it never happened. I caught him out three times.
Ah thanks for the heads up.