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[–] celsiustimeline@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Incidentally, not even 5 years ago, you could just go on stack overflow and copy and paste a whole topic into your IDE and compile that bitch, and you'd probably wind up with fewer bugs than the normie executives who just learned about ChatGPT yesterday from their 8 year old nephew who uses it to write catfish lovenotes to his teacher from Gordie Howe or some other retired sports guy.

[–] towerful@programming.dev 8 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Reminds me of the story of the old engineer asked to come in and fix some machine in a factory.

The engineer inspects the machine, marks it with some chalk, then strikes the chalk mark with a hammer.
The machine works again.
The company asks for an itemised invoice after seeing the initial invoice for $10k.
To which they received:

  • hitting chalk mark with hammer: $1.
  • knowing where to place the chalk mark: $9,999

GPT suffers from garbage-in garbage-out just as much as a search engine does.
Knowing how to find search results to fix your specific situation is a skill.
Utilising GPT for such a task is equally a skill. With the added bonus of GPT randomly pulling the perfect API/Library out of its ass

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Yeah I feel like once people realize AI chatbots like ChatGPT are largely just search engines with AutoTldrBot built in, they'll be better at using them. ChatGPT is great for bouncing ideas off of or rubber-ducking through a solution. But just like with StackOverflow answers, you as the developer need to be able to recognize when ChatGPT is just spouting garbage, when it's getting you close to the answer, what adjustments you need to make to make its answers work for your situation, etc. In it's current state, it will never just magically hand you a fully developed, robust, well-integrated, complete solution though, as much as tech CEOs want it to.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sounds like a great solution people will be prepared to pay OpenAI $100B in the future for, and not at all like an incremental upgrade over StackOverflow with extra ecocide added.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago

Yeah after rereading my comment it's not super clear, but I'm not trying to endorse ChatGPT/OpenAI. I agree that AI is a pretty terrible solution for the use case of "search engine with a built in AutoTldrBot", because of all the reasons you mention. I was just trying to point out that it's being marketed as a replacement for actual software developers, and that's very very very far from reality at the moment.

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