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[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Gish galloping requires constant fiasco. Now are they all on purpose or are some of them happy accidents?

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

See also: Reverse Gish Gallop. I just had someone try to pull that on me yesterday in !linuxmemes@lemmy.world, i.e. they're everywhere.

[–] lolrightythen@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

That was great! Thank you

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I don't think they're either really "on purpose" or "accidents". It's not calculated or truly random, it's just who these people naturally are. And it plays because unfortunately a lot of us Americans are idiots.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah that's how I see it too. Political strategist types can't understand that not everything is a grand strategy. They assume if they can't understand the strategy it must be 5-D chess or whatever. But maybe there is no strategy, and they're just being idiots?

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's game theory terminology, like flight is a "strategy", not that the bird (or bacterial spore or whatever) has the slightest clue about what it's doing.

It sounds better than "what works is what works", I guess.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

In the biological/evolutionary world "strategy" has a very different meaning than the colloquial usage here. we know animals, bacteria, plants, etc can't actively "strategize" like humans do.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 1 points 11 months ago

If a monkey does something, sees that it works, and continues doing that, is that a "strategy"? I suppose that depends on one's POV, at which point it doesn't seem "wrong" to say it, nor wrong to not say it.

[–] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

"flood the zone" strategy