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I mean, I'm using Chrome right now, but if they actually implement this and my ad blocker stops working, I'm switching to Opera or something.
Do they really expect to not lose browser users with this move?
opera is basically chrome under the hood
use Firefox or its forks like librewolf, mullvad
I think the point is if website operators start supporting this you might not have a choice but to use Chrome, if you want to browse any reasonably popular web site.
Then I will stop browsing them? I stopped using Facebook, Twitter, and Reddit quite easily. I can do it with others if they're going to go down this route.
Until they hit something you need if you want to function in the modern world.
Internet Explorer tried real hard to do that. Pages were literally built only to run "properly" in IE.
Curious what round 2 would look like.
In a world that now has stronger cryptography, attestation and surveillance capabilities? I can assure you Round 2 would go vastly different. There would also not be a Round 3.
ouch that would be painful
Like what? Bank websites don't really use ads. And I don't use LinkedIn.
Bank sites don't necessarily need to want to block ads to implement something like this. They will just see the headlines that say "this is more secure" and that will be enough for them to buy in to it.
Hope you never need to read the news, access your bank account, or buy anything online then.
^THIS
Exactly. If this comes to pass, you're still free to run an "unattested" browser if you want, but web sites are going to require it "for security" to make sure you are using an "untampered" with browser (I.e. no blocking ads)
I will stop using any websites that try to do that.
yep that's basically it in a nut shell
Why wait? Switch to Firefox now
Hate to tell you this here but Opera is also chrome based........
To be helpful here is a list of all the browsers (according to Wikipedia anyway) that are actually just three chromes in a trench coat.
Such a shame. I love the Arc browser, but in my eyes its days are numbered. Then it'll be back to Orion.
What's so cool about it? Not being a smartass I'm genuinely interested. Their website is cagey and their youtube is talking heads and fluff.
Yeah, their marketing and outward appearance is a little strange. I think it's something they need to work on.
It just has a lot of productivity features, like having a fleshed-out vertical tab system, built-in split screening for tabs and being able to separate all my stuff into separate "spaces" that I can assign to different profiles and switch between with a swipe.
Everything in the browser can be accessed from a "command bar" (similar to Spotlight) meaning I can navigate the UI a lot faster. Every keybind (as far as I know) can be changed to whatever you want.
The boosts are pretty cool too. Basically lets you quickly change the colours, fonts, etc as well as "zap" elements (similar to uBlock Origin) and inject css and js. The changes persist and are toggleable through the UI.
Also, I just really like how it looks. It fits really well with the aesthetic of my Mac setup.
It's got its downsides; being based on Chromium makes it less battery efficient than Orion, which is based on WebKit. Plus it isn't open source, and vertical tabs aren't for everyone, but it works great for me (until Google kills Manifest V2...)
So here's the thing. This web integrity nonsense isn't about locking people into Chrome, it's about locking people into seeing what they'd see if they were using Chrome. The result might be more people using chrome if a website decides to DRM their content and their ads, but if you switch from one Chromium-based browser that forces you to see the ads like Chrome does to another Chromium-based browser that forces you to see the content that the website originator wants you to, like Opera, that's still a win for Google who are more interested in forcing you to see ads for this cause than for you to use Chrome.
The solution is voice objections to Google implementing this, to not use websites that implement DRM, and to not use web browsers that let Google dictate what the future of the web through their control of the Chromium engine
i would happily explained why that is not the case here but i'm very tired so maybe tomorrow so i suggest reading that article if you are interested
Firefox. I’ve heard Opera has gone to shit lately
Opera is fine atm honestly. But it's a chromium based browser too so it would potentially have these issues eventually.