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Incase anyone tells you that lemmy.ml is not a tankie instance.

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[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 years ago (4 children)

i was recently banned from like 5 different ML communities, no clue why, hi ML admin or mod if you could tell me why that would be cool.

It was probably something stupid i did, i never read rules. (in my defense, they're always the same and i'm never going to follow them lmao) But regardless, silent bans are weird.

[–] infinite_ass@leminal.space 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

silent bans, aka "shadow bans", are deeply assholeish. But being an asshole is normal now. Which is messed up.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

gotta love the internet now :)

[–] infinite_ass@leminal.space 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Many of us are little totalitarian dictators just looking for a kingdom to rule. Like 10% of the population or something. Buncha psycho clowns.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

we all do it from time to time. Though to be fair, my ban reason would be something stupid like "you smell funny" so

[–] infinite_ass@leminal.space 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

i believe that is what i am currently doing, but who knows, maybe free will isn't real.

[–] tilefan@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

modmin have the ability to shadow ban you?

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

All bans are silent if you never read your inbox 😉

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

i have combed through my inbox, there is nothing

i would've seen it, either im stupid and can't find it because i don't know how to use this platform (possibility)

or i never got it, for whatever reason.

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't think Lemmy currently has notifications for moderation actions, but there are plans to add them: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4572

But this issue depends on other issues
https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/2441
https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/2444

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

ah, that would explain it.

Guess i'll have to hope i get unbanned and then banned again in a few years to find out why lol.

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well the reasons they provide im the modlog are absolutely ridiculous, it's mostly something like "Rule 1", "Rule 2" or something else absolutely stupid.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

yeah that sounds about right. The mod logs aren't ever public are they? That would be nice, but i suppose it would probably fuck up moderation.

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They are public, you can find the link to the modlog of an entire instance at the bottom of the page, or just by going to https://[your instance]/modlog

For an individual community, you can find the modlog in the sidebar:

that's, an odd place for that to be, but whoever said UI design was logical. Welp, i'll have to go dig through that later, thanks.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Don't worry, there's no reason to read the ML rules since they don't follow them anyway. 90% of bans there have nothing whatsoever to do with the rules.

However, I will say it's generally good practice to read the rules in other places.

based, generally i'll read rules if i'm ever posting actual posts, but since i comment 99% of the time, it really doesn't matter IMO.

[–] SirDerpy@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You've provided totally inadequate context while seeking shallow bandwagon validation from idiots. It's not logical. And, you've made a bad faith request. Yet, logic and good faith discussion are prerequisites to the study of philosophy.

The core prerequisite for participation in communist discussion is a comprehensive understanding of Capital. If one demonstrates they didn't do the reading then they'll be told to shut the fuck up so as to not interfere with classroom discussion.

I've answered your bad faith request. It's more than you deserve. You should be thankful. But, you're likely angry. No good deed goes unpunished. I'll not even see your response.

You’ve provided totally inadequate context while seeking shallow bandwagon validation from idiots. It’s not logical. And, you’ve made a bad faith request. Yet, logic and good faith discussion are prerequisites to the study of philosophy.

i have no more context than anyone else here lmao.

The core prerequisite for participation in communist discussion is a comprehensive understanding of Capital. If one demonstrates they didn’t do the reading then they’ll be told to shut the fuck up so as to not interfere with classroom discussion.

is ml a commie instance? Am i just stupid and didn't notice this? I just thought it was the other main lemmy instance. It just happened to have a lot of tankies by chance.

you're also not an ML instance user, so i'm not sure how you're answering this lmao.

I’ll not even see your response.

ok