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[–] EmperorHenry@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Do you want to REALLY cut down on pollution? Stop giving free money to the giant corporations that are causing the most of it.

I'm not going to be vegan and I'm not going to eat bugs. If the corporations want to stop climate change, the corporations are causing the most of it.

[–] schroedingershat@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So stop giving money to giant agribusiness corporations to subsidize the most polluting food source. Got it.

[–] EmperorHenry@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm not eating bugs. Real meat from animals is good for you. stop giving hundreds of billions per year to oil companies

[–] schroedingershat@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Real meat from animals is good for you

It's objectively bad for you in the quantities eaten by the west. Cutting out red meat, milk and most of the other animal products from your diet is measurably better for your health.

Stop giving billions to giant multinational cattle farming companies. It's just as large an emissions source as oil (which you can also stop funding directly by avoiding driving where possible and going solar-powered electric for the rest)

[–] CCatMan@lemmy.one 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If I can get meat from a local farm is that ok? Am I excused from causing pain if I know it's from an actual farm where I can go and pet the cow before eating it? Asking for a friend....

[–] schroedingershat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Smugly attempting to mock people who care about animal welfare doesn't justify all of the other harms you are doing.

[–] CCatMan@lemmy.one 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I have access to meat from a farm, this was a real question from my friend.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago

Because the cow is murdered and you’re definitely lying about buying small farm meat when the vast majority of meat is from factory farms. It’s always the Carnist gotcha that is always a lie.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago

No is suggest you eat bugs when there are great plant-based alternatives such as pulses, peas, beans, lentils, nuts, seeds and whole grains.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Absolving yourself of responsibility when these factory farming corporations like JBS only exist because you keep buying meat. Nothing will change systematically without the individual change.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 months ago

they existed long before anyone alive today started buying meat. there is no reason to believe they care if anyone stops.

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If they stopped giving free money to corporations, people wouldn't eat nearly so much meat. A large chunk of people would go vegan by economic necessity because the price of animal products would jump so high. And corporations tend not to care about stopping climate change.

[–] EmperorHenry@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

meat is good for you. eating bugs isn't

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I'm not qualified to say whether bugs are good for you (although muix send to have found evidence that they are). But I didn't mention bugs. They're different to vegetables and other plant-based products.

In any event, whether bugs share the nutrition of meat, it's a simple equation of eating a different balance of food or dying from an extreme weather event. It's not even close.

Please don't misunderstand me. I'm not saying this is entirely down to personal choice or that solely amending diets will fix the problem. I'm not even saying that people need to cut out animal produce entirely. I'm saying that radical changes in the structure of human society are crucial if we want a human society to exist in any semblance of peace and prosperity. Sustainable food is a key component of that shift.

[–] muix 0 points 2 years ago

Seems like a baseless claim

Edible Insect Consumption for Human and Planetary Health: A Systematic Review https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36141915/